Pierre's 170W in 1600W out Looped Very impressive Build continued & moderated

[listener191]

Hi Kone,

I don't think it matters much if the coils are spanning several slots or being split up into smaller coils between two neighboring slots. What matters is mixing the magnetic fields into coherence which represents more energy than single coils added do. I'm preparing an experiment using small ferrite transformers instead of a motor stator. You know from your forum that I like doing the experiments in small scale as electronics are scalable. It looks like Pierre's device isn't depending on resonance as the load can be changed without affecting its running. This is unlike the Jensen UDT and Hector transformer that both are affected by changing the load and both have to be fed reactive power for overunity. Pierre's new winding is more like Bob Boyce's way of putting poly phases into a single ring core. Tesla also did that in some of his patents. This forms rotating poles extending out of the ring core.

Pierre's first stator has the magnetic fields in parallel while the current is in series. This makes the stored energy coherent and makes the stored energy increase to the square of the current. In his new stator the magnetic fields are in series and the current is still in series I guess. The field through the blocked rotor core may still be in parallel and thus could become coherent. I.e. the field from two neighboring similar poles may become mixed into a coherent field representing more energy than the single fields added before being mixed. This is the principle of inversion of Wilbert B. Smith.

I'm currently designing only six bridge outputs for running six transformers which probably is the smallest number possible if it has to work like the device of Pierre. Pierre's device has some of the coils shorted which makes them act like permanent magnets even though having loss because of the resistance of the wires. It can be made simpler if the coils don't have to be shorted. Perhaps I should prepare for making it possible to switch between shorted and not shorted coils. The non-shorted coils will demagnetize and 'discharge' to the voltage supply rails through the parasitic diodes in the MOSFET outputs.

By the way people should also know about the Molina-Martinez (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20030168921A1/en) and Hyun (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20040007932) patent applications. They both claim overunity from ordinary three phased rotating fields and even from two phased fields (Hyun). They both use a locked rotor as secondary. This makes it possible to use a standard stator without having to rewind it by feeding it with three-phased AC. I haven't seen proof of this concept before the Pierre Cotnoir device.

Regards
Ole

Hi Onielsen,

I posted a picture of a Hyun replication in the other thread, for the simple two phase device. This one did not yield a positive result, as the shaded pole technique consumed too much power.

I tried a linear version of the three phase transformer (picture also posted) however, this did not develop the traveling wave component, so nothing special there.

I have the facility to cut silicon steel lamination's now, so it might be interesting to revisit the concept and cut the circular infill section required to complete design.

The rotary flux transformer only needs a VFD  to work, so a much simpler build with a good sine output.

Regards
L192

[r2fpl]

Hi MenofFather,

Several theories have been tabled in this thread but I would say you need to rely on your own belief in a theory of operation.

If you don't believe that this has at least a 50% chance of producing a favorable result, then don't attempt a replication, as there is a lot of work and cost associated with the build.

Regards

L192

Some people need> 100%, sometimes it is not enough.
They wait as it will be in the store.

[Jeg]

BUT now I am confused (as is usual) and watched Pierres most recent video (part 2) of his 10hp size stator, and he is now winding the coils on it very much different than his previous DZ generator (it seems) as now he is doing it straight across the core more or less rather than skipping over 5 or 6 slots as before....
So what should I do?

Same question here. I just received my 3phase 4KW scrap motor. I still need to salvage it so i have some time to think it more. The new topology will experience 100% the transformer effect between primaries, but this is not necessarily a bad thing if someone count it and raise the input voltage.

Regards

[r2fpl]

Same question here. I just received my 3phase 4KW scrap motor. I still need to salvage it so i have some time to think it more. The new topology will experience 100% the transformer effect between primaries, but this is not necessarily a bad thing if someone count it and raise the input voltage.

Regards

How many slots ? I need 36 like Pierre.

[Jeg]

How many slots ? I need 36 like Pierre.

I will answer you in two days, as due to the holly days i have no time for this right now.