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Pierre's 170W in 1600W out Looped Very impressive Build continued & moderated

Started by gotoluc, March 23, 2018, 10:12:45 AM

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T-1000

Quote from: TinselKoala on May 28, 2018, 12:52:01 PM
My friends are well known in this research area for over 20 years, they will sign strong NDAs and assure your intellectual property is fully protected... and they speak French.
As a side note - the NDAs and greed for money after inventors make something is what is keeping our world under unity for more than hundred years...

pmgr

Quote from: T-1000 on May 28, 2018, 06:39:21 AM
This patent application proposes rotating magnetic field around inducing coils axis and that is main reason why there is just transformer action going on. The magnetic field have to move in 3D space like a moving magnet in order to make generator.

Hopefully this clarify difference.

Cheers!
T-1000
Can you enlighten us about the 3D space movement? Pierre's setup is a 2D setup only. There is no variation along the Z-axis (which would be going from the front of the stator to the back of the stator; just a finite size). As such the magnetic field moves in X/Y only.
PmgR

gotoluc

Quote from: TinselKoala on May 28, 2018, 12:52:01 PM
I have some friends who operate a world-class scientific laboratory dedicated to researching this kind of systems. They are in the Toronto area and would be more than happy to spend an afternoon in your laboratory so you can demonstrate your apparatus running itself and a microwave oven without any external power input once it is started.  Let me know when it is convenient for you and I'll arrange the meeting.  My friends are well known in this research area for over 20 years, they will sign strong NDAs and assure your intellectual property is fully protected... and they speak French. They _could_ also be a great source of funding and laboratory assistance... if you can show them something interesting.
Thanks for the offer TK but unfortunately Pierre has no working device to demonstrate at this time. After the video demos were made the relays were getting worse and then started to fuse together and all the wiring switching side caught on fire. All that remains is the stator and even the rotor core Pierre reused the wire for his second build attempt. I say attempt because after he had wound half of it he realized it would not work well in that different winding configuration. Pierre told me he is not interested in rebuilding the first prototype. He only wants to use his limited time and work at his pace (without pressure from us) to make an improved version. I know this because I made the suggestion I could rebuild his first prototype (under NDA) to help expedite a 3rd party evaluation. He got frustrated and said he is not in any hurry and doesn't want to pushed or under pressure to provide. It will be done at his pace and I can tell you from the changes he shared that may only be around December.I know this goes against the appropriate protocols of not changing something that works but it's not up to us.
Regards
Luc

Fr. Merci pour l'offre TK mais malheureusement, Pierre n'a plus de dispositif fonctionnel à démontrer en ce moment. Après les démonstrations vidéo, les relais se sont dégradés, puis ont commencé à fusionner et tous les commutateurs de câblage ont pris feu. Tout ce qui reste est le stator et même le noyau du rotor Pierre a réutilisé le fil pour sa deuxième tentative de construction. Je dis tentative parce que, après en avoir enroulé la moitié, il s'est rendu compte que cela ne fonctionnerait pas bien dans cette configuration d'enroulement différente.
Pierre m'a dit qu'il n'était pas intéressé a reconstruire le premier prototype. Il veut seulement utiliser son temps (limité) et travailler à son rythme (sans pression de notre part) pour faire une version améliorée.
Je le sais parce que j'ai fait la suggestion que je pourrais reconstruire son premier prototype (sous NDA) pour aider à accélérer une évaluation par un tiers. Il a été frustré et a dit qu'il n'était pas pressé et ne voulait pas pousser ou sous pression pour fournir. Cela se fera à son rythme et je peux vous dire, d'après les changements qu'il a partagés, que cela ne se fera pas avant décembre.
Je sais que cela va à l'encontre des protocoles appropriés de ne pas changer quelque chose qui fonctionne mais ce n'est pas à nous de decider.
Cordialement
Luc

T-1000

Quote from: pmgr on May 28, 2018, 02:14:38 PM
T-1000
Can you enlighten us about the 3D space movement? Pierre's setup is a 2D setup only. There is no variation along the Z-axis (which would be going from the front of the stator to the back of the stator; just a finite size). As such the magnetic field moves in X/Y only.
PmgR
There is no short answer and it would not fit into this thread as it is dedicated for Pierre's contraption.
I will just point out some general direction which is very related to what is happening with magnetic forces with paralel magnets and magnetic pole switching of permanent magnets. Please see Howard Johnson magnetic motor research and patents in order to gain more insight. When 3 magnetic poles come into action to each other the resulting forces are in 3D vectors and it is possible to change 3D position of the center of resulting magnetic pole.

Hopefully that helps.

gotoluc

Quote from: T-1000 on May 28, 2018, 02:44:16 PM
There is no short answer and it would not fit into this thread as it is dedicated for Pierre's contraption.
I will just point out some general direction which is very related to what is happening with magnetic forces with paralel magnets and magnetic pole switching of permanent magnets. Please see Howard Johnson magnetic motor research and patents in order to gain more insight. When 3 magnetic poles come into action to each other the resulting forces are in 3D vectors and it is possible to change 3D position of the center of resulting magnetic pole.

Hopefully that helps.
Maybe part of the phenomenon Science is now recognizing which d3x0r posted and Pierre replied right after? https://overunity.com/17653/pierres-170w-in-1600w-out-looped-very-impressive-build-continued-moderated/msg521079/#msg521079

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6fe6yiUTRY near earth magnetic re-connections...