It's been a hoot

[hoptoad]

Science = religion = magic
i mean who can draw lines separating them?

to be honest, stil learning but
Christ or Krista or Krishna ( means ALL ATTRACTIVE )
even Brahma in Hindu!!
well its the same story. again and again!

how can we solve this PARADOX?

regards

Well, personally, I draw a big line between them. How? Obviously it boils down to what you think the real purpose of each is.

Science is about the study of the physical universe, in an attempt to explain the origin of every'thing', and how every'thing' works.

Religions (and Social Science) are about the human experience and human actions. While they pay lip service to existential origins and how 'things' work, their real purpose has nothing to do with explaining how we came into existence, or why a rubber ball bounces, their primary focus is on WHY (i.e. purpose) we were born into existence and how we live our lives within this existence.
Magic is entertainment through deception and misdirection.

In summary :
Science is concerned with what, when and how.
Religion is concerned with whom and why.
Magic : is concerned with tricking/entertaining you for any purpose that suits the magician.

Of course, all of the above, is my subjective opinion.

[citfta]

In summary :
Science is concerned with what, when and how.
Religion is concerned with whom and why.
Magic : is concerned with tricking/entertaining you for any purpose that suits the magician.

Of course, all of the above, is my subjective opinion.

I like your summary.  And you will note that there is nothing in it that makes either religion or science exclusionary of the other.  Most of the modern arguments against religion claim that religion and science are at odds with one another.  That is a ridiculous argument.  Science, as you have posted, looks at the how God created everything and how everything He created works.  What a lot of people don't know because of ignorance is that most of our modern scientific fields of study were actually started by men that had a strong belief in the Creator and wished to learn more about His creation.  That is a fact that can easily be verified with a little time and effort by anyone.

Respectfully,
Carroll

[AlienGrey]

You speak that we need a correct translation. Well what does XX mean? What does "Whats not what I said or meant!" mean???  Maybe its you that needs correct translation, not the Bible. I understand the Bible perfectly. You cannot change my mind on any of it. As Carrol said, God is the God of Abraham. Thats the answer Carrol and I give you. And Im sure there will be more from you on this, Call God what ever you want. Free will. Use it wisely.  Our answer doesnt satisfy your needs then tough angel cookies. Thats all we need to say. What? You wish to denigrate us over this? I read Brads post. I thought about a lot of it over the days its been up. And today I made a reply to just 1 of his arguments, which was number one on the list. I have the right to reply to his religious arguments, yet you say that we should not. And not only do you say that we should not, you go further with all the, 'You need to get your facts straight".  Snowflake effect is what I think it may be. You have been triggered and you will have none of this from us. Well too bad bud. Well little grey alien friend, we aint goin nowhere.

Oh. You say you didnt read Brads post?  You just 'followed' only me here to read what I have said, and never looked over the thread before? You didnt even look at Brads post that I 'quoted' right there in my post to figure out what I was replying to, and the only one you come at is me and not brad for talking about religion??

I know what this is. Im not going to fill these pages with arguments with you. Seen it and done it many times here. I dont value your ideals you have presented so far to make those kinds of commitments of my time any longer. You dont want a debate. You want to bash and crush what we have in our beliefs. Not to change us. You dont want others to follow the right path and you will interfere with that and never ending. You are one of many here that dont believe in God and cant just leave the  ones that do alone about it. Its gotta be a big show for you. I know what you are. And I know some others here that you all would get along just fine together. Well why dont you just go and do that. Because I for one am not further interested in what you have to present. I already know what it is. Im done.

Mags

Mags what are you burbling on about with your venomous ramblings 'xx I HAVE A RIGHT TO REPLY xx' your good at manipulating and twisting stuff to try and prove your point in defense, irrespective if you right or wrong.
if i'm what you make out, get your king James reference book out and count how many times the word for the creators real name of. 'YWHW' or 'Elohim' is substituted with  'God ' how would you like it if i called you by some one else's name he is going to say get away from me I don't know you!
I you only looked on the net at factual documentary evidence you would realise what you are doing.

[onepower]

That is a ridiculous argument.  Science, as you have posted, looks at the how God created everything and how everything He created works.

You may want to read this...https://users.drew.edu/~jlenz/whynot.html

This is how scientists conduct themselves and the intellectual arguments made are flawless. I think this should be mandatory reading in every school to teach the virtues of logic and reason.