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Kapanadze and other FE discussion

Started by stivep, May 26, 2018, 01:48:55 PM

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groot



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Hello everyone.
Im being a bit skeptical now but thats the point I guess.
I looked up antennas and Refractions and surface waves etc.
Im not an expert but In order to get surface wave (zenneck for example)
Wave must travel thru more refractive material first and experience total refraction when reaches less refractive material at brewster angle.
Здравствуйте все. Сейчас я немного скептически отношусь, но в этом и есть смысл. Я посмотрел антенны и "Преломления",( refraction) а также поверхностные волны и т. Д. Я не эксперт, но для того, чтобы получить поверхностную волну (например, zenneck), волна должна сначала проходить через большее количество "преломляющего" (refractive) материала и испытывать полное {"преломление",(refraction) когда достигает меньшего "преломляющего" (refractive) материала под углом Брюстера.

So source must be underground .
tesla coil + ground seems to work just like communication antenna. Monopole antenna create mirror image by reflection from ground surface
and behaves like dipole antenna.
Так что источник должен быть под землей. Земля катушки Тесла, кажется, работает так же, как антенна связи. Монопольная антенна создает зеркальное отражение при отражении от поверхности земли и ведет себя как дипольная антенна.
When you succeed in launching a surface wave you get total Refraction and no reflection so no ground mirror effect .

No ground mirror effect means no underground image of the antenna aka probe so wesleys simulation of tesla coil launching air/ground interface Zenneck wave will not work because you get reflection only.
Im probably missing something and all my knowledge comes from wikipedia Lol.
Maybe thats why Tesla went bankrupt digging tunnels for grounding of his magnifying transmitter.
Когда вам удастся запустить поверхностную волну, вы получите полное преломление и никакого отражения, так что нет эффекта зеркала. Отсутствие эффекта наземного зеркала означает отсутствие подземного изображения антенны или зонда, поэтому имитация моделирования катушки Тесла, запускающего воздушный / наземный интерфейс, волны Зеннека не будет работать, поскольку вы получаете только отражение. Я, наверное, что-то упустил, и все мои знания получены из Википедии Lol. Возможно, именно поэтому Тесла обанкротился, копая туннели для заземления своего увеличительного передатчика.


Thank You and please explain me why am I wrong.
Спасибо и, пожалуйста, объясните мне, почему я не прав.

Simple  short answer from moderator:
you didn't  include in your analysis:
1. polarization
2. HV static forces
3.  Standing wave 

Простой короткий ответ от модератора,
вы не включили в свой анализ :
1. поляризация
2. статические силы ВН
3. стоячая волна

Note  translation was  added to original  post by  moderator to help Stalker to understand  better.
перевод был добавлен в оригинальный пост модератором, чтобы помочь Сталкер лучше понять.

stivep

Questions  directed to me from Russian audience:
What frequency  Viziv  tower works  at.?

answer :

18kHz  when  in  full power ( 22kHz when testing)
but The 18kHz is at the  harmonic  of  Schumann resonance.!!!!!!!!!!!

Башня Viziv работает в частоте 18kHz. но хорошо .... э
должнa работать na 18kHz  когда на полную мощность
Снова Вы должны ждать part  #2 моей статьи, чтобы понять больше..
(22kHz test mode)


18 кГц - гармоника
нo  резонанса Шумана. !!!!!!!!!!!

Note: but this is not one single frequency - it is spectrum of available frequencies at 18kHz.


Wesley

groot

Please let me clarify some nonsense in my post. It really takes a lot of time to compose it . And time is what I lack the most.

1. Polarization Is it only physical orientation of coil . just like vertical monopole or dipole . spheres one over another in vertical lane above ground ?

2. HV static - While watching clip from Andrey Pastukhov  i can see person being carefull keeping hands away from antenna . so high voltage(like tesla coil)  is necessary?

3. Standing Wave  - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_wave  wiki posted animation about two waves traveling one right other left. Is this why 90 degree and two coils? Then coil 3
                              inside the two, experience that kind of wave form creation? (still its a bit confusing )



1. Polarization  - Electromagnetic waves (such as light), traveling in free space or another homogeneous isotropic non-attenuating medium, are properly described as transverse waves, meaning that a plane wave's electric field vector E and magnetic field H are in directions perpendicular to (or "transverse" to) the direction of wave propagation; E and H are also perpendicular to each other. By convention, the "polarization" direction of an electromagnetic wave is given by its electric field vector.
From a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE4GjB1cWLQ now i know that this is controlled by adjusting a distance between ground and top capacitor (top load) . ?  what if i want to excite surface wave using other material instead of earth ( air and water)?? same principle?

2. HV static - While watching clip from Andrey Pastukhov  i can see person being carefull keeping hands away from antenna . So high voltage(like tesla coil)  is necessary?
Tesla coil may work properly up to a megahertz or little more, but what about 52 mhz ?
This high frequency gives me 4.73 feet length of wire and that is not enough to build tesla coil or slayer exciter. And this is my another
question will this work with kacher ( slayer  circuit ) or classic tesla coil setup is necessary ? Im looking for easy way to pulse  coil at resonant frequency.

3. Standing waves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DovunOxlY1k
So simply for this condition i need resonance?
http://www.deepfriedneon.com/tesla_frame0.html
following instructions from your video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE4GjB1cWLQ I need to keep this "tesla coil" resonating (L1-L2),
what about 1/4 wavelength for my secondary coil wire length ? 
Nodes and standing waves were present in hairpin circuit . That required resonant match of nst transformer to capacitors used in series.
I wonder if i can simulate this using signal generator and observe it on my cheap Chinese oscilloscope . Any suggestions how?

Thats it for now.
Thank You.

stivep

Tiger from Kazakhstan
This is his work with Electret.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electret

The capacitor next to Spark Gap is  0.1microfarad
Wesley

r2fpl

Electret - I've done experiments with these waxes and the effect is positive.
The film has successful and failed attempts with electret as well as the effect of charging plexiglass to a negative value which is strange.
You can have similar effects with Teflon (PTFE) or plexi have much better electrostatic properties.

However, there are not many potentials but they are permanent.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeuAaR1TvxY