Kapanadze and other FE discussion

[stivep]

Inventor filed   patent application and  order of secrecy was imposed  for ~ 10 years.
The technology was too good.. 
You are nobody special.. just the first one... so what?
Inventor  wasn't allowed to talk about it , write about it , show it   ..... it was  forbidden to the public..
But he had  priority rights to the  patent  if...  if..... if.....

And now many years later  you can  hear about it:
Energy Storage Breakthrough - Solid Hydrogen Explained
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7CCq4oBgw4

I read some of the opinions expressed  under the  video :      Gustav Derkits 2 days ago   

This presentation is so full of basic errors that it made me angry enough to unsubscribe.
Absorption (as is Pd:H) is distinct from hydride formation (as in TiH2).

Hydrogen atoms are NOT positively charged.

Any material that contains sufficient

Hydrogen to function as an energy source by easily releasing H2 is by nature flammable.
Fire, once started, will release the hydrogen in the remaining material.

In this system hydrogen is stored in a very thin layer on the surface of a disk inside a machine.

You never discussed how much the system weighs per gram of hydrogen stored and never derived the volumetric or density

energy efficiency. You said the machine extracts hydrogen "from air", an oxidizing medium, with close to zero free H2, then changed
to " smokestacks", a reducing medium, which still has very low H2 content, without thinking through whether either of these scenarios
are reasonable in a commercial setting. I've only touched a few of the many bloopers.
Send this presentation to a real chemist, if you know any, and ask for an honest critique.
The background story of this system is sketchy, with its "DOD stopped us" scenario.
The chemistry and physics are very funny. The manufacturing analysis indicates a high degree of complexity.
The engineering functional analysis shows a large amount of semi-functional dead weight, including the mass of the disk and container.
Your presentation naively accepts a lot of claims at face value. It is not an analysis.

My opinion:
I have problem with

Hydrogen atoms are NOT positively charged.

Gustav Derkits in his critique didn't mention that Ions are always positive or negative.
Here is supporting link and quote:

Ions result from atoms or molecules that have gained or lost one or more valence electrons, giving
them a positive or negative charge.
Those with a negative charge are called anions and those with a positive charge are called cations.
It has more protons than electrons, resulting in the positive charge.

why-does-an-anion-have-a-negative-charge

Solid hydrogen by wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_hydrogen differs  in description from  that  explained in the video
that is talking about  Molecular solid hydrogen - in very clever  form of "sponge."

H2 is by nature flammable.
Fire, once started, will release the hydrogen in the remaining material.

Yes it will but it is up to inventor to  deal with it and investor to take risk.

You never discussed // system weighs per gram of hydrogen stored // volumetric or density//
energy efficiency.

I agree but blogger sales its content for money from YouTube and is unlikely  able to address this question.
Here is supporting link and quote:

well-known hydrogen sulfide removal process is based on the reaction of hydrogen sulfide with iron oxide

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/iron-sponge-process
https://patents.google.com/patent/KR20150117768A/en
https://patents.justia.com/patent/10847809
Explanation provided by  Video blogger in form of article is here:
https://undecidedmf.com/episodes/forget-solid-state-batteries-solid-hydrogen-explained

Here is site of Plasma Kinetics the patent holder .
https://plasmakinetics.com/
they make :
light-activated hydrides. plasma-kinetics-light-activated-hydrides.
that  was/is? partially restricted By DoD, DoE.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31950606/

Statement of video creator:
Plasma Kinetics boasts its technology to be 17% less expensive and 30% lighter than Lithium-ion batteries for the same amount of energy stored.

Wesley

[lukaszkwiatkowskii]

Podstawy chemii się kłaniają, czyli nie tylko występują wiązania jonowe ale też inne, najczęściej polarne np.: dwa atomy nie jonowe mogą być połączone wiązaniem polarnym.

[forest]

Jeśli chodzi o samochody na wodę to wg mnie jest tu dużo nieporozumień wokół metody. Uważam że wykorzystywana jest tu energia z zewnątrz (ambient energy) do rozłożenia wody na wodór i tlen ewentualnie  na natychmiastową konwersję wody w gaz tzw HHO (izomer H20 o stanie gazowym, nietrwały i wybuchowy ) - jako że gaz ma dużo większą objętość to tłumaczyłoby dużą efektywność takiego paliwa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ0kjilQd1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Fc8q5TMas
Jak widać mamy technologię aby ocalić świat od zmian klimatu ale z niej nie korzystamy :-(

[stivep]

Dziekuje za komentarze.
Here is much better explanation  of how Hydrogen on tape like in old tape recorder works.

This Breakthrough Could Lead to the Rise of Hydrogen Fuel!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIe4GulRuYU
17% less expensive and 30% lighter than Lithium-ion batteries

You going to love this video.
Wesley

[lancaIV]

Plasma Kinetics hydrogen discs
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/plasma-kinetics-may-revolutionize-hydrogen-storage-for-evs-167256.html
Smith told Guberman that both the disc and the film can be reused up to 150 times and are 100% recyclable.

versus

2002 priority date !

https://www.fmlink.com/articles/new-energy-company-to-offer-mail-order-hydrogen-fuel/

https://eepower.com/news/fuelsell-to-deliver-hydrogen-direct-solution-by-mail/#
https://patents.justia.com/patent/7399325
https://patents.google.com/patent/US7169489B2/en
https://patents.google.com/patent/US7011768B2/en

compared now > 500 Wh-1000 Wh/Kg battery capacity :
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2021/08/20210824-sion.html
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/650_whkg_1400_whl_recharg_batt_new_era_elect_mobility_ymikhaylik_0.pdf

https://polyplus.com/product-pipeline/

https://www.v2charge.com/innolith-claims-1000-wh-kg-battery-breakthrough/

15 KWh/Kg battery capacity is a theoretical given number :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=6501093B1&KC=B1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20021231&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP
probably ,cited documents,the Bolloré Group http://capacitorsciences.com/company/  will get similar high success !


Sincere
OCWL