Kapanadze and other FE discussion

[stivep]

3.You didn't respond regarding Xiaodong Liu papers on energy multiplication in retarded resonance.
Is he also crook?
From where is coming energy gain described in 2 attached papers below this message?
4.Any comments on Strebkov patent from my previous post? COP in patent example is 5,4.  1kW in- 5,4kW out at 50Hz. See attached below.
Cheers,
Pix

we going to discuss first:
Xiaodong Liu papers on energy multiplication in retarded resonance.
paper in question is:

– [3] Qichang Liang, Yu Liang, Xiaodong Liu, Energy Multiplier in Retarded Resonance,
April 2011, http://www.vixra.org/pdf/1104.0052v1.pdf
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quote .1

_{source absorb energy instead of output energy when the distance
between the source and receiver is ¼ of wavelength.
Such a system is an energy multiplier.}

quote .2

_{In retarded resonance with distance of quarter wavelength, the receiver gains energy via EMF from the source and the source also gains energy via EMF from the receiver. This system becomes an energy multiplier.}

_{quote .3}

_{In retarded resonance, the energy extracted from the source is determined by the retarded phase on the route. When the distance between the source and the receiver is ¼ of wavelength, the extracted energy from the source is negative. In that case, the source supplies EMF to the receiver without energy delivered. In the mean while, the current in receiver feed EMF back to source with inverted phase resulting to energy absorption in the source. The total energy of the system is increased since both source and receiver gain energy.}

analysis of the source:
.1 _{is credible paper with credible scientists from credible institution,} But!!!
_{Energy Multiplier in Retarded Resonance Qichang Liang1 , Yu Liang2 , Xiaodong Liu1* 1. Department of Nuclear Physics, China Institute of Atomic Energy, P.O. Box 275(10), Beijing 102413, China 2. Pangeo Corporation, 2005 Black Acre Dr., Oldcastle ON, N0R 1L0, Canada * Corresponding Author, Email: liuxiaod@gmail.com
But!!!Pangeo Corporation,is actually Canadian cable manufacturing company.
https://panjiva.com/Pangeo-Cable-Industries-Ltd/1212770
look at their shipment note table. it's likely in other Chinese from Canada trading:
Fish Plates,  Washer Screws Caed, screws –Cable Parts.}

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–so Canadian entity is just not important for us business – another Chinese.
–Qichang Liang1 , Yu Liang2 , Xiaodong Liu1* were not found listed as
employees and/or representatives of Institute of Atomic Energy, Beijing 102413, China
and address is P.O. Box 275(10),
- papers  published might use shell with or without representation.
-scientific title e.g PhD, is not published along with names.
– papers are from 2011, – no scientific community feedback was found.
quote:

Acknowledgement Special thanks to Mrs. Yulan Yao, Mr. Jian Liang, and Mr. Fengjun Zang for their encouragements and financial support to this work.

explains that this was the job done by a student.

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analysis of the paper:
Chinese researchers states:
generator sends energy to connected  loop antenna.
that energy in the form of EM wave, is received by another loop antenna, connected to capacitor;
that makes it resonance circuit-antenna in resonance
Receiving antenna, is at the distance of one quarter (1/4) of wavelength – still in Near Field
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_and_far_field

receiver antenna sends this energy back to transmitter antenna
and that multiplies energy in total.

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so from the Chinese paper standpoint this could be
used as energy generating device.
example:
100W is multiplied by a factor of 2 excluding losses, and multiplied again.

 

Conclusion:
It sounds like a nonsense.
Source of additional energy use for multiplications the energy coming from generator.
But if you disconnect generator from the outlet
in the middle of the process
that all multiplication is gone.
100 W from the outlet cannot turn magically into 1000 W.
but
there are plenty of other papers from other guys
talking about the same sort  of something , that must be
pushing them to investigate it and publish it.
I'm going to closely look and those other papers
and give you my feedback.
Wesley

[AlienGrey]

So why would we want to do that when everything on the Dally thread talks about gain at
quarter wave length yet the grenade coil does not do this now does any of it work.

I'm sure this would help every one on here!

Regards Sil

[stivep]

Explanation how 4 points formula describes most of the devices in question.

Question:
What the energy comes from.?
Most of people want to understand quickly the summary of  given processes
in topic:
Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world   « Reply #1152 on: July 30, 2022, 10:38:50 PM »
I used simple template and here I'm explaining how
to use it taking energy Extraction From Schumann Waveguide
as an example: 

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Format of the Template:
Please explain energy conversion process.
in this format:
1. - _{initial energy} form and its source.

2. - in few words describe process of conversion

3. - _{energy form} at OUTPUT of the device.

4. -  please compare the _{initial energy} used vs _{energy at output} in units. 

add1.
initial energy comes from Schumann waveguide.
The source of this energy is energy fluctuation in the waveguide.

add2.
When electromagnetic wave  due to lightning discharge deposits its energy in the earth/ air interface at complex Brewster angle,
this energy in TM mode can be extracted using Tesla coil with adjusted Top Capacitor acting as a receiver.

add3.
Output energy from Tesla coil low voltage winding = energy deposited in the interface  minus loses.

add4.
The lower the frequency the lower the losses.
Loses are not important to us as all energy in the interface is delivered by nature
note:
attenuation of the free space doesn't apply to waveguides.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-space_path_loss#
Inverse square law doesn't apply to waveguides.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law

earth/air interface is waveguide for Zenneck wave.Depends form the frequency 
Zenneck wave can have different names and forms of excitation  but all of it represents the same phenomena
explained here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIIABIU3tRw&t=352s .
Wesley

[pix]

Finally someone said this! 
Thanks Stivep for boiling it down to 4 exact points.

a) Tesla coil is acting like a probe inside waveguide.
b) Important is top terminal height, it should be movable to addjust to proper angle.
c) In my opinion VIZIV has been put down intentionally once investors and notable board
    of directors realised it is not only for transmiting power wirelessly by Zenneck surface wave,
    but towers intercept extra power from Schumann waveguide frequencies.
d) someone trying duplicate and build Tesla receiver will be immediately spotted and propably will face troubles, as this is quite visible thing.
e) what power could be drawn from single Tesla receiver of not so big size? Any idea?


PS.
I am in process of duplication Strebkov  exact setup for resonant transformer, still waiting for 1kVA autotransformer
and 380/220v isolation toroidal transformers. Already have capacitors.
Give feedback of my results.

Cheers,
Pix

[stivep]

"Try to think of it as fallow .
example of thinking pattern :
Electromagnetic Wave was unknown to humanity , because there was no receiver invented.
_{Think about human animal walking since its evolution on the earth not knowing that
earth is one of two components of 2D waveguide made from air-the dielectric and Earth -the lossy conductor.
And this structure (like any other 2D waveguide) is a medium for energy from natural source present there in TM mode.}

So no naturally present electromagnetic wave was never received and in time of Nikola Tesla and Marconi
it was just speculation around  purpose of Tesla's  Wardenclyffe Tower (1901–1917),

Many people were looking at lightning's, but thinking about energy fluctuation in atmosphere
nobody ever thought about Schumann waveguide and Schumann resonances,

global electromagnetic resonances,  generated and excited by lightning discharges in the cavity formed by the Earth's surface and the ionosphere.^[1]
predicted  by Winfried Otto Schumann.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winfried_Otto_Schumann
until measurements made by Balser and Wagner in 1960–1963^{[18][19][20][21][22]}

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In 1908 Dr. Zenneck  based on Tesla and Marconi created basis for waves trapped in very special waveguide
the interface. https://youtu.be/He5xQOJHlrU?t=99
It was also a time of Arnold Sommerfeld  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Sommerfeld
and birth of something very exotic at that time:

Sommerfeld and Zenneck wave propagation for a finitely conducting one-dimensional rough surface
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/898782

Dr. Goubau in 1950, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goubau_line

based on work on surface waves on wires from 1899
by Arnold Sommerfeld.^[7][8] used as a feedline at UHF to link high frequency transmitters
and receivers to their antennas,^[2][3] and in scientific research.^[8]

In  July 23, 1986 Dr James Corum  gave me (The young man) basis to  my own research.
Electromagnetic structure and method  Patent number: 4751515
In 2006    Dr James Corum having no money filed his provisional patent application

In 2014-02-28 Dr James Corum  started to shine.
EXCITATION AND USE OF GUIDED SURFACE WAVE MODES ON LOSSY MEDIA
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20140252886A1/en

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In 2010 I as very much grown man started my own research that today is own by me, and partially
released to the public without any patents, but level of release is based on my partner in research
due to his contribution and based on  gentleman agreement.
-often criticized by some oil/gas delivery based Far Eastern Europe terror Rashists and their puppets.

it is Extraction of Energy  from Schumann waveguide.



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summary:
If you collect all individual raindrops, in one surface you'll likely flood it.
Earth/air interface as a highway, is affected by energy  entering to it under condition of complex Brewster angle.
Bird at HV power line doesn't get electrocuted if its legs distance is relatively small.
Human can be affected by Step Potential - the voltage between the feet on the earth but not by electromagnetic energy in TM mode
trapped in the interface in ELF frequency band.
The EARTH is one of two elements of interface and you are walking on it.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIIABIU3tRw&t=352s
The receiver based on Tesla coil can receive this energy.
https://youtu.be/He5xQOJHlrU

Wesley