Kapanadze and other FE discussion

[stivep]

in regards to:
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg572453/#msg572453
it is time to say more about the achievement that made possible to receive more energy from the device that was
delivered to the device.
It has nothing to do with overunity as  overunity doesn't exist .
However for some of you it is strange that you can deliver 100 W and receive 250 W or more.
Translated to the cost of energy it would be invested 100% of the money and right after a nanosecond you got 250% back.
It is explained here:
https://physicstoday.scitation.org/do/10.1063/PT.6.2.20210817a/full/
https://youtu.be/BzSI2cz1Aag?t=29
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ys9P_1TgEg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sCxdD4ZoWs

in the next comment I will try to go deeper into it, and say more about the technicality of the process.
This process could be also done in the small lab.
actually it was done at some researchers homes with minor difference.
So they saw the glowing matter suspended in the middle, but the material was not that what makes the difference.
Temperatures are translated to the size of specimen,
so the amount of power delivered to 1000 times smaller specimen can be 1000 times smaller, but the effect would be there.

Wesley

[speedy125]

Wes one comment ,
"dr. Tadić: This is good news, but we have to wait for the complete results
dr. sc. Tonči Tadić, head of Croatian fusion activities within the EUROfusion consortium and president of the Council of the European project DONES-PreP, tells us that we should be careful when interpreting the results, that is, wait for the full report.

- This is certainly a nice and good news for everyone. This is about inertial fusion, where a miniature capsule is taken and fired with lasers. Although in this experiment they got 2.5 MJ of energy after using 2.1 MJ for heating, no one here says how much energy was used for pumping the laser, which can turn out to be more than 2.1 MJ - explains Dr. Tadić .

[stivep]

<sub>Wes one comment ,
"dr. Tadić: This is good news, but we have to wait for the complete results
dr. sc. Tonči Tadić, head of Croatian fusion activities within the EUROfusion consortium and president of the Council of the European project DONES-PreP, tells us that we should be careful when interpreting the results, that is, wait for the full report.

- This is certainly a nice and good news for everyone. This is about inertial fusion, where a miniature capsule is taken and fired with lasers. Although in this experiment they got 2.5 MJ of energy after using 2.1 MJ for heating, no one here says how much energy was used for pumping the laser, which can turn out to be more than 2.1 MJ - explains Dr. Tadić .</sub>

Tonči Tadić, is very much respected scientist but
the above quote was taken from: WebG3
scientists-in-the-usa-succeeded-in-producing-more-energy-than-the-investment-through-fusion-this-is-a-turning-point/
In physics accuracy and detail matters:
writes the Guardian.
but the information about the guardian is served to us by
WebG3 that  is  at the same time "
nonprofit, ships containers, converts steel shipping containers into medical clinics   
creates medical grade maternal health facilities in Kenya 
G3Box,  (receives about 45 unique visitors per day, and it is ranked 5,142,314 in the world.)

in other words we dealing with some source quoting another source about somebody else achievement or activity.
and then dozens of less important forces are quoting the secondary sources editing and editing their own interpretation.
Did you get the picture?



The gain achieved by scientists was 150% in plus.
that means they delivered 100% of of power and they  gained 150% making it total ~ 250% after less than ~1 ns.
And even here  in this point we have a problem for a average reader:
was it 1 ns or it was 1 ps or it was 1 femtosecond

it is a normal material that  disintegrates in temperatures not much more  and around 2000's degrees of centigrade.
it is important to remember inverse square law.
It is important to remember time frame of incident pulse known also as time of exposure

example:
<sub>If transparency  to the source of heat  of the envelope holding the specimen is good enough,
Then it is a specimen that is heated more than the envelope, by external source (example laser)
The specimen is re-radiating back the heat, to the walls of the envelope, according to inverse square law, and it takes a time
it takes also a time before it reaches the walls of the envelope, that are partially heat  transparent .
Part of that energy from the specimen, is radiated in form of x-rays.
those x-rays are transparent to the walls of the envelope.
That makes the envelope more survival  to melting.


an example of quote that was quoting a quote:</sub>

_{Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory managed to produce more energy with fusion than they invested,
according to the first results of an experiment that can be a turning point in the way we get energy.
Scientists have been dealing with the problem of nuclear fusion and how it would be possible to
release excess energy in relation to the investment since the 1950s, and these results, if confirmed,
will have historical significance.}

_{http://observatorial.com/news/technology-and-science/245835/scientists-in-the-usa-succeeded-in-producing-more-energy-than-the-investment-through-fusion-this-is-a-turning-point/}
___________________________________________________________

summary:

the goal was to suspend the specimen in the vacuum
-were the distance to the walls of the material holding it is _{(according to the inverse square law)}
long enough for that material to survive  the pulse heating the specimen.
_{(the pulse time-frame)}
 
-melting takes time and the pulse is heating much faster the specimen to fusion temperature

- then specimen ignites releasing more energy than was delivered to it in the process  of fusion.
  then it must be cooling time for the specimen envelope material, avoiding its disintegration.
  And then we are ready to repeat the process.,

It is important to remember that the amount of energy delivered is directly proportional to the size of specimen
So small labs or very small labs can achieve the effect as well.

I think the next important is for me to comment the  forms of suspension of a specimen
in the vacuum with and without any  capsule.

In other words:
How can you suspend the plasma "in the middle of "nowhere" but
this "nowhere" is exactly where we want that "nowhere" to be.

Wesley

[stivep]

what you think about approach of this company ?

Avalanche Energy
https://www.avalanche.energy/about.html
https://twitter.com/AvalancheFusion

I know nothing about them yet.
I may think, . Nicely made commercial site is:
– not saying too much.
– having strictly commercial agenda.
But then it should be followed by some patents right?
So what are those  patents and where to find them?

Wesley

[stivep]

what you think about approach of this company ?

Avalanche Energy

https://www.avalanche.energy/

https://twitter.com/AvalancheFusion

and /embercore

https://www.usnc.com/embercore/

Dear Croatian friend:
thank you very much for very much interesting links.


Just a simple mechanism:
You approaching certain entity with expectations to gain.


Wesley