Kapanadze and other FE discussion

[nelsonrochaa]

Nelson,
What effects are you referring to? In terms of V & I measurements and waveforms, other than some 'iffy' clamp meter readings in the Kapanadze garden videos, to my knowledge, these have only ever been displayed at the bench using bench power supplies or batteries to power the devices.

Hoppy,

What effects i'm referring ? I am referring to the loads used in the devices of TK or Ruslan .Is not this the topic of discussion?
How they can power such loads ,we can verify that there are several resistive loads, such as lamps, heaters etc.
What I said, is that they should try to replicate something identical, even with batteries, or phase of the grid.
I hope I have been clear now.

cheers


Nelson  Rocha

[Hoppy]

Nelson,
IMO your proposal will not help to determine beyond reasonable doubt that Ruslan's or Kapanadze's devices are genuine or faked.

[nelsonrochaa]

Nelson,
IMO your proposal will not help to determine beyond reasonable doubt that Ruslan's or Kapanadze devices are genuine or faked.

Why do you say this ?Are you contradicting yourself?
The speculation you make about use a battery does not either help . how you know is fake ?

In other hand , if someone could reproduce the sames actions of their videos(TK , Ruslan) in the same conditions , maybe will be more easy and assertive say that could be a fake.

Do you agree ? Otherwize seems we are chase witches, as in the time of the Inquisition.
The loads used in videos of TK  apparently could not be drive by batteries .....  like AG refer .  is much load to be provide by a battery .

Now exist other chance , maybe TK knows how to use the existing energy even of a small battery to amplify the output, and then we are already talking about another situation.
The problem is that type of systems could have a lot of aspects and approaches that make more difficult understand how they works, and use the argument that only could be fake , raises another question:
Are you or anyone else able to reproduce the same "fake" system? ups  after all this years no one did that.
maybe i could dedicate a bit time to this device .

Cheers


Nelson Rocha 

[Hoppy]

Why do you say this ?Are you contradicting yourself?

Cheers

Nelson Rocha

Not at all! As I commented in my post to Wesley - I'm comfortable assuming that the devices I have so far seen demonstrated are faked self-runners until such time as a plausible alternative explanation surfaces. I don't have proof these devices are faked any more than I and others have proof they are genuine. Feel free to demonstrate a fake self-runner if you think it might help.

[nelsonrochaa]

Not at all! As I commented in my post to Wesley - I'm comfortable assuming that the devices I have so far seen demonstrated are faked self-runners until such time as a plausible alternative explanation surfaces. I don't have proof these devices are faked any more than I and others have proof they are genuine. Feel free to demonstrate a fake self-runner if you think it might help.

Curious see your position in relation to the subject of topic , but yes you have right ,you dont have proof that is fake , only a suposition .

Cheers

Nelson Rocha