IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?

[George1]

To nix85.
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1) About your first post. Ok, we will follow your instructions to consider carefully the last page. Please give us some time to consider it carefully.
2) About your second post. The same appeal --  please give us some time to consider it carefully.
3) Anyway my respect to your enthusiasm! Your posts are really very interesting! You obviously belong to our inventors' brotherhood! Would you join our team? (Not pressing, only suggesting. )
Regards,
George

[nix85]

Consider also this idea of mine, i copy paste from original thread. Just to add, toroid is not the best solution, halftoroid is. With toroid there is too much water in the wider part, wider part must be as short as possible to reduce the weight.

https://overunity.com/18599/water-inertial-drive/

i shared this on other thread but i think it deserves it's own.

principle is simple. imagine a circular pipe, bottom half 4 times the diameter of the upper, there is a pump inside the system,

in short, centrifugal force will be 4 x greater in upper part despite the fact that volume of water is 4 times less.

this is due to venturi effect (continuity principle), water in narrower part speeds up proportionally to how much narrower pipe is (https://youtu.be/UJ3-Zm1wbIQ?t=97 ) and centrifugal force is proportional to velocity squared.

let's say 5 liters is enclosed in the tube, since upper half is 1/4 diameter, there are 4 liters in bottom half and 1 liter in upper half.

let's say pump is pushing bottom part water at 1m/s, this means water in upper part moves at 4m/s.

let's say radius of the circle is 0.5m

let's calculate the centrifugal force http://www.calctool.org/CALC/phys/newtonian/centrifugal

for 4 liters at 1m/s force is 8N or 0.8kg.

for 1 liter at 4m/s force is 32N or 3.2kg.

or constant 2.4kg, but since only at the center force is pure y component it is 1/2 or 1.2kg average up


and

for 4 liters at 2.5m/s force is 50N or 5kg.

for 1 liter at 10m/s force is 200N or 20kg.

or constant 1/2 x 15kg = 7.5kg up

etc

of course increase of velocity means more friction and very low friction tube must be used, like electropolished stainless steel, but principle is clear and should be tested.

[nix85]

Tnx, George. I am already a part of the team here, at disposal to help in any way i can.

[nix85]

Also regarding this water based inertial system, there was an article on KeelyNet.com i can no longer find on waybackmachine.

It was a report from a guy somewhere in US, he was driving his car in mountainous area, suddenly a saucer landed on the road in front of him.

Occupants were regular Americans, they asked him for water. He agreed to give if he can inspect the ineterior.

Inside, he saw a pipe going all around the outer wall of the saucer and periodically going up narrowing and then going back down widening again.

This is the same thing as my idea. The thing is water speeds up in narrow parts and slows down in wider.

On the way down momentum of water converts into static pressure, that is why there is no reaction downward, only up pull due to fast water in narrow pipe.

[George1]

To nix85.
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Thank you, nix85! Thank you, brother-inventor! Thank you for your interesting posts! You are already a member of our team! I will write to you in the nearest future! Meanwhile if you find some interesting additional information, then please share it with us!
Regards,
George