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idea for a motor using Biefeld-Brown effect

Started by Belfior, January 11, 2019, 01:52:44 PM

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F6FLT

Quote from: lancaIV on January 12, 2019, 09:49:08 AM
F6FLT,  charge source : medium density?
             charge source : medium distance ?
2x 2x2x2 inches N52 cubes in 25 cm distance and the same cubes and "your finger between" by 1 cm distance !
                                   :)       
                       
                                appropriate Technology and devices use  !

       
What do you mean?

lancaIV

For example instead medium air : medium liquid f.e.  water!  TTB and the motion-less pump
About Ionwind-Drives :
https://www.scinexx.de/news/technik/erstes-flugzeug-mit-ionenwind-antrieb-2/

And about N52cubes : try the distance tests. ! BUT : BIO-HAZARD. !

Sincerely           

     OCWL
p.s.: or use FEMM for the "N52 teste" simulation

F6FLT

Quote from: lancaIV on January 12, 2019, 10:03:14 AM
...
About Ionwind-Drives :
https://www.scinexx.de/news/technik/erstes-flugzeug-mit-ionenwind-antrieb-2/
...

Thanks for the link. A plane is much more efficient than a helicopter, just as the prototype described in the article is certainly much more efficient than the Naudin's lifter. Nevertheless, it remains very inefficient: "Von dieser elektrischen Energie werden aber bisher nur rund 2,5 Prozent in Schub umgesetzt."
A high current flows from one electrode to the other, and most of it is lost in the resistance of the ion path.
Considerable improvements are needed for ion propulsion in the air to be of operational interest, as the force/energy ratio is currently far too low.
In water I think MHD is much more effective.




lancaIV

                                  for small devices or mixed +( capacitive) electro-magnet/+ permanent magnet ;

                                                                                          all together
                                                 
                                                                                         electrets
                                       https://www.google.com/search?q=electret&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b

Belfior

if there is a net force towards to smaller plate of an asymmetrical cap, where is the force pointing if you encapsulate one plate inside another? Just one wire coming out of a 'flying saucer' that covers the other plate? So now there is a net force towards the smaller terminal's center, that inside the other plate. I mean that is so beautiful it must be anti-gravity