Bifilar pancake coil overunity experiment

[ayeaye]

Nowadays with the availability of cheap high voltage capacitors in virtually any capacitance, it is easy to increase the "self capacity" of any coil by adding a series or parallel capacitor.

So you assume that these two are the same thing, i don't make such assumptions.

(Rationale -- why are my oscilloscope traces not well aligned to the grid lines. It is because i have an old oscilloscope where the phosphor is worn out in some places on the screen. So i cannot always perfectly align them to the grid lines, but perhaps i lost hope and didn't try. I calibrated the scope thoroughly though, and it is otherwise a good an precise instrument.)

[TinselKoala]

So you assume that these two are the same thing, i don't make such assumptions.

Actually what I "assume" is that people who make claims should be able to prove them, or at least test them in a reasonable manner and report success or failure with real repeatable data.


If you think the two are different, or you wish to find out whether they are or not... please feel free to post your demonstrations for discussion.

[ayeaye]

If you think the two are different, or you wish to find out whether they are or not... please feel free to post your demonstrations for discussion.

I did an experiment, which weirdly this time you are not willing to replicate. Experiments are done to find out how nature works. If we make assumptions, we omit doing experiments, because we pretend that we already know, and then may well be that there are things in nature that we will never find out. Such assumptions are just another example of omissive logic which may lead to conclusions opposite to the truth or not seeing some things that are real.

The previous time i did an experiment, i didn't consider mosfet leaking. But i went further to find out how it leaks and the way to calculate how much it leaks, so that this can be added to the calculations. I think my work has been useful for many who face a similar problem.

There is this story that the spanish who came to america told. They came to shore with small boats, the indians asked, how could you go over the sea with such small boats. The spanish said, they didn't, they came with that big boat that is on the sea over there. But the indians were not able to see the boat.

[forest]

The egg of Columbus

[ayeaye]

This is my most careful copying of the oscilloscope traces (see the figures below), i cannot do it better. The precision is now twice greater than before, twice the squares of the oscilloscope grid, it seems that single precision is not enough. The content of the sch file is now the following.

v 20130925 2
L 48000 49000 48300 48500 3 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 48300 48500 48700 47900 3 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 48700 47900 49100 47500 3 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 49100 47500 49400 47300 3 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 49400 47300 50000 47000 3 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 50000 44200 50500 45000 3 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 50500 45000 50900 45500 3 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 50900 45500 51500 45900 3 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 51500 45900 52400 46200 3 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 52400 46200 53200 46300 3 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 53200 46300 54400 46400 3 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 54400 46400 55800 46500 3 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 55800 46500 56500 46500 3 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 48000 42900 49000 43100 3 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 49000 43100 50000 43200 3 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 50000 43200 50000 40500 3 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 47800 46500 56700 46500 3 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 47800 40500 56700 40600 3 0 0 0 -1 -1

With this

#Time for gschem unit in ns
XU = 5.0
#Voltage for unit for ch 1 and 2 in mV
YU1 = 0.5
YU2 = 5.0

the output of the Python script is now this

Input power was 9.952 uW
Output power was 12.026 uW

The output is still greater than the input.