New discovery suggest that permanent magnet motors might be possible

[ayeaye]

Yes, what concerns field then, the two poles of the magnetic field, when one attracts, then the other repulses. This is not mirror image, if it were mirror image, then either both attract, or both repulse.

[lumen]

The interaction between two magnets is something that has been tested by many and every test that I have made indicates that it cannot work because the fields are circular and all forces are accounted for in any direction.
I have recently found something that has not been covered in this forum and I'm very excited about what it may result in.

It also gave me a new insight into a new all magnet motor design that just might also be possible using this concept. I'm not going to post the new concept until I can verify that this concept has good merit but I will say that I have the first prototype fully constructed except for the ceramic bearings that were lost in the mail.

[forest]

When the repulsion of magnets is used to rotate magnet out of sticky point in a clever way then it may self-run.

[onepower]

Lumen

The interaction between two magnets is something that has been tested by many and every test that I have made indicates that it cannot work because the fields are circular and all forces are accounted for in any direction.
I have recently found something that has not been covered in this forum and I'm very excited about what it may result in.

The magnetic far field is generally circular not unlike electric fields but not the near field, it is not circular in any science textbook unless the magnet is circular. So anyone who has actually read a science textbook should know better than to make false statements that the field is circular in every case... it is not.

Regarding "something that cannot work", everything we know today was thought impossible 1000 years ago. Everyone said that cannot work, it is impossible and as we know all the critics were completely wrong about almost everything. Thus in a very real sense the critics own ignorance to the facts becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy for them which is why they never accomplish anything of substance. They are what we call losers in layman's terms because history has shown they generally always lose. They are always saying you cannot do that... but someone always does.

As well many critics like to take everything out of context and move the goal posts. Logically it may be very difficult to take two magnets and have them move or interact in such a way as to produce excess work or energy. However we know an external field from a coil can manipulate a permanent magnetic field. As such if the work to manipulate a field is less than the work the manipulated fields produce then extra work is possible. The mistake most people make is in thinking they somehow know or understand every conceivable way in which the fields could interact. There are literally millions of possible combinations of interactions thus we can presume most critics are wrong which is most often the case.

The fact is we do not know, that is the only correct answer... we do not know yet but I suspect we will soon.

[onepower]

One mistake I see many people making is using large iron cored coils with permanent magnets. We were taught that an iron core concentrates an external magnetic field. Which begs the question, why in the hell would we want to concentrate the external PM field within the coil when we know the coils magnetic field must then overcome this concentrated field to have an effect?. It's like saying I want to go faster in my car so let's ride the brakes for a bit while were at it.

At which point we can begin to see normal is not really normal in any sense of the word. Creating more problems and more complexity due to our own lack of understanding is not normal. Logically we would want a coil which is invisible to the PM field until we want to produce an interaction and only then would the coil interact. We would want to guide or change the field structure or geometry in some way which benefits us in some way. Normally, people should think about what they are doing rather than just do what everyone else is doing without thinking.

If we want to learn something then we need to think about every action we take. Ask ourselves why am I doing this in this particular way?, to what end?, is this the best way?, what other ways are there which may give a different result?. Just doing something because everyone else does it is obviously a lesson in stupidity because we already know the result... it's always the same. Everything must be questioned on every level every step of the way.