New discovery suggest that permanent magnet motors might be possible

[F6FLT]

...None of us were born knowing all about electronics or anything else for that matter, but a lot of us have taken the time to actually try and learn.  And those that refuse to learn make such silly arguments for not taking the time to learn that I just have to comment on it sometimes.

Respectfully,
Carroll

PS: F6FLT sounds like an amateur radio operator's call.  Are you a ham?  My call is WD4SIX

Hi Carroll,

I fully agree with you. We are born ignorant. Ignorance is not a defect when it is known, because it can be corrected quite easily (and pleasantly), just study. The real defect is ignorance of one's own ignorance, or complacency towards one's own ignorance, which prevent any progress.

We all have our limits. Some can be corrected by study, others not because our intellectual capacity is insufficient.  This is for example my case in PHD math. On arXiv, there are documents that I don't understand the slightest equation.  I therefore do not dispute the validity of these publications since I do not understand them.
But I see people challenging simple things for others even though they don't understand them. This is the Dunning-Kruger effect: doubt is proportional to competence. The less competent you are, the less aware you are of the limits of your knowledge, the more confident you are in your "knowledge" even if it is baloney. Only education can solve the problem, in many but not all cases.

PS: F6FLT sounds like an amateur radio operator's call.  Are you a ham?  My call is WD4SIX

Right.   
73
François

[Belfior]

Very well stated F6FLT.  I agree with you one hundred percent.  The argument about education getting in the way of innovation is ridiculous to the extreme.  When I see a novice making wild claims about a perfectly normal behavior of a circuit or device I am reminded of someone that wants to explore new worlds.  They refuse to take the time to learn what worlds have been explored so everything new to them must be a new discovery.  They are so simple in their thinking they refuse to even learn how to read a map to help them explore for new worlds.  I have had many discussions on this and other forums with people that don't even know how to properly use the meters and other test equipment they have but they are still sure they have made some great discoveries. Thanks for your clear and accurate post.

All of this sounds very condescending, but I don't mean it to be.  None of us were born knowing all about electronics or anything else for that matter, but a lot of us have taken the time to actually try and learn.  And those that refuse to learn make such silly arguments for not taking the time to learn that I just have to comment on it sometimes.

Respectfully,
Carroll

PS: F6FLT sounds like an amateur radio operator's call.  Are you a ham?  My call is WD4SIX

Education can totally become in the way of innovation. It is just ignorance to think, that entities whose power depends on certain things like energy are not going to affect the academic world or the material that is being used to teach people.

Technology is also being kept from people because of "national security", that funnily enough means that the people (nation) are not going to get it

...None of us were born knowing all about electronics or anything else for that matter, but a lot of us have taken the time to actually try and learn.  And those that refuse to learn make such silly arguments for not taking the time to learn that I just have to comment on it sometimes.

Totally agree on the first part, but someone might be just learning. We were not all born 60 years ago and are learned ham radio operators. Silly arguments should be met by simple examples, that this person can use to verify your point on the bench. The people that actually "refuse to learn" have the most diplomas on the walls and they are practically priests of the dogma, that was imposed on them. So in their case the education totally stops any innovation and they will go preaching this dogma to next next generation. They will stay in office and get good grants and research packages.

I meet these kinda academic people on regular basis and they are the ones saying "there is no free lunch" or "proving" things by saying "as we all know..." Well I have had many free lunches and I don't know, so tell me.

So my take on all this is that everything is just fairy tales, until you have proven it on a bench and few others replicated it. Education is a valuable asset in your research and will save you a lot of money and time. If you have an intuitive idea that is out of the normal scientific scope, just discus it with your friends and try to prove it on your bench. If you say it out loud on a forum you will be ridiculed until you crawl back to your hole and pay your electric bill like everybody else.

Aristotle said: "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." meaning that you can debate with a person about anything, even if you do not agree. You both make points about the idea and come to some conclusion. Well in the case you are both intelligent people anyway.

We have been robbed for 100 years of evolution already and we should have at least our solar system explored.

[Floor]

@Bifilor

You rock !

"When a finger is used you pull up 105g PLUS anything the magnet interaction needs to get his done. So 105g was pulled plus any work the magnets needed for separation."

No... but good guess any way.

As soon as rotation occurs (from 90 degrees toward 40) a RELLING force arises along
the slideing magnet vector.

Although my finger pressure "causes " the SL weight to be lifted.... that lifting is assisted
by the magnet interactions ... ie   as soon as .... or soon after rotation beyound 90 degrees ocurs.
That assisting force increases as RO moves toward the 40 degrees of rotation.

   regards
        floor

[Floor]

ALSO PLEASE NOTE

Rotation is motivated very nearly equally.... by attractionS and repulsionS ... BOTH.

[Belfior]

@Floor:

I don't rock. I just have opinions that are sometimes crap and sometimes they raise questions in people. That is something everybody should do. Do not repeat what you were told, but try for yourself and ask questions.

Also I'm a computer engineer, that is studied under electrical engineering, but that only means I can tell the difference between AC and DC. Well. Most of the time...

I am very interested in the universe and the stuff that fills it. The only reason we can't go see it is because we need energy and propulsion. The fact that we are still using chinese new year rockets to do that is just mind boggling. I believe that is a just a dog and pony show for the people that actually pay for it and in reality the CIA is all over the solar system. I am glad I am not alone with this opinion.

Just watch https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6400614/ by Dr. Steven Greer

Why I propose stuff that people/classical engineering might disagree with is because I feel that the only way to hide this technology is to keep us occupied with something that leads to underunity or rocketry.

Here is a ham radio operator, who does not believe in the common antenna theory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J02-iLzjFbE&feature=youtu.be&t=1351