Finsrud perpetual motion machine

[Low-Q]

I also believe it's a kind of a clock. All three pendulums are excited by the steel ball, and all pendulums are tuned equal. I believe if this device had only two pendulums, it wouldn't work.
When trying to make a perpetual motion, one have to overcome a small time delay which is allways stopping a perpetual motion. To overcome this delay you have to phase shift actions in the device more than 180^O, and by so excite different items in the device in advance - this is ofcourse impossible without adding energy.
In Finsrud's device, the steel ball seems to excite >120^O ahead the pendulums all the time, but by exciting them <240^O late, instead of <180^O late. The magnets are therefor forced to work on the ball more in one direction than oposite direction. I believe this is the key to sustain perpetual motion.
I did contact him once, because I believed the device was powered by a heavy leaden weight (In the top middle of the device), where a supporting spring gradually went downwards, and then exciting the whole machine. The pendulums are heavy, and have very little loss. Hence the machine is going slow, almost lossyless (High Q - oposite of my nick ), by adding a tiny portion of energy - a leaden weight and gravity - and of course will work for many years before one have to wind it up again.
Mr. Finsrud confirmed that this was not right. So I believe it is working in other ways Maybe the way I described. I don't know.

Br.

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[george_roanoke]

  Hello, I?m not sure how far your discussion on Finsrud's device has gone, but I wanted to post how I believe his device is at least partially working.  I will go back, though, and read through the discussions.
  It appears that Finsrud's device (for convenience here is video link again: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=553061720631716456&hl=en ) partially works on this principle of low to high, high to low (etc.), magnetic fields and inertia discussed in a topic I started here (http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1958.0.html ).  Basically using a magnetic wave pattern.
  Seems the inertia created when the ball is attracted by the magnet  (coupled with the weight of the ball, which prevents the magnet from holding it as it goes by) is enough to get the ball to the low (weak) magnetic field of the next magnet--thus starting the process over again.  The ball than kicking the pendulum to keep it going.
  This is what I was hoping to accomplish with an alternating magnet wave design in a circular track. 


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gr

[Joh70]

Finsrud's contruction is a genius and acurat design. But in my opinion it is not a "perpetuum mobile" in classical sense (to be used as a effective energy generator). It uses earth rotation (-spin), called coriolis power, through its swinging pendulums. this is a very impressive construction. But may be it will not work near equator and sourt/north-poles of the earth, because the swinging axis do not get additional power there. place it at equator and tell if it is working there!? Magnets are only used to adjust the balls weight at the point rolling over the springs. the three pendulums arranged in a equal sided triangle summarizing the power out of earth rotation spin and store power actualy not used by the ball. this means the pendulums deliver the energy but also work as a capacitor for energy to middle up and downs. a thing like "foucault pendulum", i think. as it could be read in the following links or others, the spin-resulting-energy doesn't not occur at equator and/or NorthPole/SouthPole.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foucault_pendulum
http://www.calacademy.org/products/pendulum/

[RunningBare]

Great site!, this forum I mean.

How magnets work

[Low-Q]

  Hello, I?m not sure how far your discussion on Finsrud's device has gone, but I wanted to post how I believe his device is at least partially working.  I will go back, though, and read through the discussions.
  It appears that Finsrud's device (for convenience here is video link again: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=553061720631716456&hl=en ) partially works on this principle of low to high, high to low (etc.), magnetic fields and inertia discussed in a topic I started here (http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1958.0.html ).  Basically using a magnetic wave pattern.
  Seems the inertia created when the ball is attracted by the magnet  (coupled with the weight of the ball, which prevents the magnet from holding it as it goes by) is enough to get the ball to the low (weak) magnetic field of the next magnet--thus starting the process over again.  The ball than kicking the pendulum to keep it going.
  This is what I was hoping to accomplish with an alternating magnet wave design in a circular track. 


best regards,
gr

Maybe you're right. If you drop a iron ball close to a magnet, the magnet will encreas the acceleration while approaching, and reduce the acceleration after it has passed the magnet. Not only that. The magnet will also alter the iron balls path. Maybe this is the extra energy is used to make Finsruds machine work?

Br.

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