2019 and beyond

[F6FLT]

...be steadfast on the holy quest of FREE ENERGY RESEARCH.. UNTIL DEATH DO
ME PART I WILL NEVER EVER GIVE UP ON THAT QUEST..

Great resolution!  It reminds me that death is also one of nature's problems to be eradicated. 

[onepower]

F6FLT

Would you have preferred to live in the 19th century, light your home by candlelight if you are rich enough, live in a cold and humid place in winter, work 50 hours a week from Monday to Saturday, and die of tuberculosis at age 45?
Would you have preferred to live in the 18th century, to have 40 years of life expectancy, to have one chance in two to die before 2 years, to live under feudal laws, illiterate, and if you are wracked with a hare's beak, to have to endure it all your life, under the quolibets of ignorant believers asking you what you have done to God to punish you in this way?
Would you have preferred to live in cave age, trying to survive from day to day hunting or gathering, at the mercy of wild animals or opposing tribes?

I believe you are making a strawman argument because the choice was never all or nothing as you suggest. The fossil fuel people often make the same false argument when they claim we must return to the stone ages if we stop using oil which is not true. Free and renewable energy will replace all fossil fuels in the future and our lives will improve for the better without all the pollution.

I like to think the most advanced technology would be seamlessly integrated into our lives and also work with nature not against it. That is, the most "intelligent" technology will have no downside and does no harm to us or our environment which is why it is the most intelligent choice. We can do better and we will.

The fact remains that if we destroy the environment we will be living in caves once again regardless of what kind of technology we have because the surface of the planet will be inhospitable. Thus it was never technology or the environment because the two can coexist if we start making more intelligent choices.

[tinman]

@tinman

Would you have preferred to live in the 19th century, light your home by candlelight if you are rich enough, live in a cold and humid place in winter, work 50 hours a week from Monday to Saturday, and die of tuberculosis at age 45?

Would you have preferred to live in the 18th century, to have 40 years of life expectancy, to have one chance in two to die before 2 years, to live under feudal laws, illiterate, and if you are wracked with a hare's beak, to have to endure it all your life, under the quolibets of ignorant believers asking you what you have done to God to punish you in this way?

Would you have preferred to live in cave age, trying to survive from day to day hunting or gathering, at the mercy of wild animals or opposing tribes?

People who constantly complain about the pollution and the little miseries of today's life see only the other side of the coin.
They have forgotten how far they have come, they have forgotten all the benefits of today's life. They complain about the disadvantages of the thousands of solutions put in place by man and for man over the course of his history, and they no longer see the advantages, such as well-off, spoiled and poorly educated children.

Well im not sure as to which part of the world you are talking about,but it was not as bad as you state in the 19th century.

My grandfather,who live in the 19th century,died at the age of 96.

Yes,no more death from taburculocous.  Now we have new diseases popping up from no where-like aids.

Work a 50 hour week-i wish. Try 65 to 70.
But lets look at you 50 hour week--
When i was a child,my father went to work,and yes,a 50 hour week is about right back then-->but,only he had to head off to work,while my mother remained at home to take care of the homely duties. Today,both mother and father have to work a 40 hour week,just to make ends meet,and share the homely duties after getting home from work. So your 50 hour working week has gone to an 80 working week.

I also think you missed the point i was making,which all is not as great as you seem to think it is.

Lets say for example that the solar panel was invented instead of the ICE,and the world was powered by the sun instead of oil back then--where would we be now?

I dont think you see the big dilemma coming our way.
One day soon,the oil,gas,and coal are going to run out-then what?

Not enought is being done towards renewable energies,as there is to much money to make by a greedy few from fossil fuels.

As far as being able to eradicate those dangerous diseases from yesty year,yes-some. But what about all these new diseases,like aids?--how many have died from that one alone?.

Like i said,once the oil and gas run out,most today will die.
No oil=no trucks. No trucks=no food. No food =dead.
No WWW=world financial disaster.
Do you see the predicament we are in.

You are also wrong about the health of this generation.
The children back in the days of my childhood were far healthier than those of today--thanks to technology.  I have lived through the transition to this wonderful technology,and seen the end results.

The world and todays generation are far less healthy than it was 50 years ago,and life is not the bed of roses you seem to think it is.

Brad

[tinman]

I would like to add this--
There is nothing we do today,nothing we power today,that cannot be powered by the sun-that includes air travel.

We have solar panels at less than 50 cents a watt,so there is no reason every home and car cannot be powered by solar.
We even have trains and busses powered solely by the sun.

So i ask--why are we still using fossil fuels?.

Technology is not the problem,its how we use it,and how reliant we we are on it that is the problem.

Most seems to think that fossil fuels will be here for ever,but that is not true. At todays rate,we have 31-32 years worth of fossil fuels-->at todays rate of consumption. In 5 years,the consumption of fossil fuels will have increased by 13%.

Most here will still be alive when the shit hits the fan.
Your children and grandchildren will be lucky to survive--thats how bad it is.


Brad

[ramset]

I say we Boldly go...
it seems our destiny , yesterday 4 billion miles away they took pictures of the Snowman ,..and the Chinese..sent some photos of their SUV on the Dark side of the moon.
I found F6FLT's mission statement most inspirational ,lets wake the kids from their numbing slumber...,get them out of their safespace and this Vaporware internet they are trapped in ,and into the real game !!
to Boldly go sounds good .