Zero and Q device

[Void]

I know that this system can not be  COP>1.

I never wanted to reach COP>1 with this system.
It is impossible to reach COP>1 with this system.
I count on losses.
I need COP 0.7 or COP 0.8.
As much as I can return to source.
Additional 0.2 will be added from load.


That is my idea.
That is what I am talking all the time.
In that case I am looping energy in circle and using
whatever reminds.

(Kapanadze is adding only a little to his system from load)

Hi V8Karlo. You still seem to be overlooking that if you power a 12V light bulb from
a 12V battery directly that the efficiency will be for all intents and purposes 100%. 
You just can't beat that without drawing in extra energy from outside your setup.

A very efficient DC to DC converter circuit can have an efficiency at about the mid 90's %
or so at lower power output.

No matter what scheme you try with these types of arrangements, and I have experimented with
some different approaches, you will always be less than 100% efficient, which is always worse
than powering a 12V load directly with a 12V battery. I hope that is more clear now.

The only way you can beat powering a load directly with a battery with no switching circuitry in between
(pretty much 100% efficiency), is to come up with an arrangement which pulls in extra energy from
outside your setup. Akula and Ruslan did not use any special circuitry, (and most likely the same for Mr. Kapanadze).
They used normal PWM driver circuits, and normal 'kacher' circuits or similar to power the tesla coil, etc.

If their setups are legit, then the magic in their setups is occurring because they are doing something that
caused their setups to draw in excess energy from outside their setups, not because of some small efficiency
gain they might have made in one of their driver circuits. In other words, you will never have a chance
of getting the types of results Kapanadze/Akula/Ruslan have shown with normal closed loop circuits alone, as
they are always less than 100% efficient. If you want to see a COP > 1, then you have to come up with a way
to draw in extra energy from outside your setup. That is where the 'magic' will come from.

[v8karlo]

Nothing remarkable. The series connected caps are charging so fast on the first phase, that the input bulb filament cannot heat quickly enough to glow. On the second phase, the transistor is switched on and the caps discharge into the output bulb.

"The series connected caps are charging so fast."


Fast means less time.
And the current trough L2 has more time to pass.
That means also that current is passing trough L1 in less time.
Less time - Less power is passing trough L1.

10W passing trough wire in 0,5 sec , is not the same as 10W passing trough wire in 1 sec.

And you don't count that the caps are charging through L1 which has 170 ohm, so it cant be super fast.
(They just don't need lots of current, they only replenish, because L2 is 170 ohm they never
discharge much. They discharge from 220V to 175. So you have to replenish from 175V to 220V)

Now,
Remove C3. You have C1 and C2 left.
L1 light up but L2 glow with more light than L1.
Now the both bulbs glow but with different intensity.

In this case you can see that theory that speed of charging caps fast does not hold.

What about that case?

All those theories will never hold because the device is real.
Have you considered that case?

The case that device in front of you is real device.

[v8karlo]

The Zero device has 3 variable:

Input voltage
Number of capacitors
Resistance of load (L2)

[lancaIV]

v8Karlo,  R.A.M. and R.O.M., random access and operating : source and storage and now not memory but energy !

F.e. solarcell-calculator with integrated capacitor/battery storage or smartphone or household devices ....
  Now you need also a CPU concept which operate the output : variable or fix load!?
  But it is ever variable : the  consumer/ load demand !  You need the inertia/ inrush period controle ( up to 10 times the nominal VA steady demand value )!
 
 

[Hoppy]

V8karlo wrote: -

"Now,
Remove C3. You have C1 and C2 left.
L1 light up but L2 glow with more light than L1.
Now the both bulbs glow but with different intensity.

In this case you can see that theory that speed of charging caps fast does not hold.

What about that case?"

V8karlo,Simplify your zero circuit by removing the transistor, leaving just the front-end diodes D1 - D4 and all four caps. Now, with the mains supply connected and L1 not glowing, please shunt all three caps C1 to C3 with a 1K resistor. Why does L1 glow but fails to glow when the transistor and the remaining diodes are in circuit acting as a much lower resistance shunt? If you can answer this question, it will go some way to explain why L2 glows whilst L1 does not. Also bear in mind that capacitors have reactance (AC resistance) at 50Hz and that bulbs require current as well as voltage to glow - clue to why L1 glows when C3 is removed from circuit.