What's a magnet/ gravity motor worth to you?? New way of thought.

[gyulasun]

It was hand held.  See no reason fixed will not work.
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Hi Tom,
I kindly ask you to repeat the test (when you have the time) with a rigidly fixed magnet too because
a hand held magnet always include hand movement, whatever small it may be.  When your fingers have to
work against repel forces while holding the magnet, unwanted and mostly unnoticed finger  or hand movements
can add  "input energy"  to the system. 
The rigidly fixed magnet test should be done even if only the mere presence of the repel field is needed for the continuous operation 
i.e. only a non-moving, static field is needed at one of the sides of the outer drum.
Gyula

[skywatcher]

It was hand held.  See no reason fixed will not work.

Ok, this explains a lot. Nobody is able to hold a magnet at a fixed position if there are other moving magnets nearby.
Your hand will move, and this is where the energy comes from. I'm quite sure it will not work with a fixed magnet.

Attraction is out!!! The only thing that will happen is very quickly the inner magnet wheel will jump towards the external magnet and PIN itself to the internal sides of the drum enclosure without the drum rolling at all.  So NO ATTRACTION to be used.

It has not happened to me but if to much repell is used I guess the same pinning thing might happen on the opposite side of the drum even if that side is very heavy.

But the fixed magnet could also be outside the rotating drum ?  This would be much easier to construct.
If it has to be inside the drum, the drum can only have one bearing, like the drum of a washing machine.

[magnetman12003]

The fixed magnet is being hand held on the ""OUTSIDE ""of the drum??  Inside the drum is the magnet wheel.  I did not realize I did not make that point clear enough??  Two bearings are used.  One for the drum axle bottom and one for the removable lid axle so the magnet wheel can be removed.

[skywatcher]

The fixed magnet is being hand held on the ""OUTSIDE ""of the drum??  Inside the drum is the magnet wheel.  I did not realize I did not make that point clear enough??  Two bearings are used.  One for the drum axle bottom and one for the removable lid axle so the magnet wheel can be removed.

You wrote "A very powerful long rod external magnet is hand held or mounted close to the outside drums center."
The 'outside drums center' is inside the drum...  but this didn't make sense to me.
Thanks for clarification.

So my picture from #32 is correct, except that the outide magnet should be in the opposite direction, to repel the drum ?

[magnetman12003]

The magnet wheel in your diagram needs to be made much larger so it always clears the central axle of the
Drum when the magnet wheel rotates or floats around.


The external magnet has to have polaritys reversed so it repels.


I hope this clears things up.


Tom