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A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1

Started by George1, January 28, 2019, 02:58:40 AM

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George1

It's Ok. I understand. You can follow the same topic in besslerwheel.com/forum. For your convenience the greater part of the post there is given below.
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Let us assume that the energy consumed by the standard water-splitting electrolyzer is just equal to the sum of (a) the Joule's heat and (b) the heat, generated by the burning/exploding of the released hydrogen. Therefore we can write down the equality
V x I x t = (I x I x R x t) + (Z x I x t x (HHV)) (1)
where
V = DC source voltage
I = DC current
R = Ohmic resistance
t = time
Z = electrochemical equivalent of hydrogen
HHV = higher heating value of hydrogen
Therefore we can write down the inequalities
V x I x t > I x I x R x t (2) <=> V > I x R (3) <=> V/R > I (4).
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The last inequality (4) unambiguously shows that Ohm's law is not valid for liquid resistors.
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The above considerations are not very precise however. In order to be precise enough we have to introduce the quantities v an i. In other words, we must write down the equality
(V - v) x (I - i) x t = ((I - i) x (I - i) x R x t)+(Z x (I - i) x t x (HHV)) (5)
where
V = DC source voltage
I = DC current
R = Ohmic resistance
t = time
Z = electrochemical equivalent of hydrogen
HHV = higher heating value of hydrogen
v = minimum voltage necessary for the water-splitting electrolysis to begin
i = the related small decreasing of current I, caused by the presence of v.
And from here we can write down the inequalities
(V - v) x (I - i) x t > (I - i) x (I - i) x R x t (6) <=>
<=> V - v > (I -i) x R (7) <=> (V - v)/R > I - i (8).
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The last inequality (8) shows again that Ohm's law is not valid for liquid resistors.
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It is evident that if V is much bigger than v (and I much bigger than i, respectively), then v and i can be neglected and in this case inequality (8) can be replaced with
inequality (4).
In one word, if equalities (1) and (5) are valid, then inequalities (4) and (8) are valid too. But this means that Ohm's law is not valid for liquid resistors.
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Ohm's law is the most basic and most fundamental axiom of electric engineering. No Ohm's law -- no electric engineering. Therefore equalities (1) and (5) are not valid and this fact confirms again the validity of our basic OU water-electrolysis-related concept, which is considered in this topic.
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Looking forward to your answer. 

George1

The yellow head with black spectacles in our previous post corresponds to number eight. (Some defect of the system obviously replaces number eight with stupid yellow head with black spectacles.)

George1

Any comments, any opinions related to this topic? Any objections against the validity of our water electrolysis OU concept?

NdaClouDzzz

Quote from: George1 on October 24, 2020, 07:32:34 AM
Any comments, any opinions related to this topic? Any objections against the validity of our water electrolysis OU concept?

No comment on what you are presenting as I haven't studied it. However, I would like to point out the irony in regards to those who claim that free-energy tech is being suppressed.
There are those who repeatedly claim that free-energy tech is being suppressed and everyone here should be open-sourcing in order to save the world. Funny thing is that those same people can't even see the free-energy tech that's already in front of them. If people at a free-energy forum can't see it, how can we expect a world full of people with no interest in it to see it? THAT is the REAL problem that we face with free-energy tech!

George1

To NdaClouDzzz.
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Dear colleague,
Thank you for your reply. But some parts of your text seem to be a little difficult for understanding. Would you be so polite to explain them in detail, if possible?
George1