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A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1

Started by George1, January 28, 2019, 02:58:40 AM

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kolbacict

Hi.
In the case of wire it is not necessary. In the case of an electrolyser, it is not obvious. I'd rather measure it.
In the case of alternating current, everything is simple. one of the two electrodes is made of niobium.When it is an anode, it is oxidized.And does not conduct current.Maybe someone will consider this a hoax, but it's interesting anyway. :)

George1

To kolbacict.
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Hi,
Thank you for your reply.
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Yes, you are absolutely right that AC electrolysis is an interesting concept and let us not be in a hurry to reject it. As if it has some serious potential, which must be studied however precisely and thoroughly. Please give us some time to consider carefully the related link you have sent.
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Please refer to our previous post, which describes the PEM electrolyzer.
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1) A standard copper wire is connected to a standard DC source thus forming a circuit. The voltmeter registers a voltage of 4VDC, the watt-meter registers a power of 16 Watts, the ammeter registers a current of 4 A, the ohmmeter registers an Ohmic resistance of 1 Ohm and the clock registers a period of 1000 seconds, within which a current of 4 A flows through the copper wire.
Question 1: What is the value of the Joule's heat, generated by the copper wire?
Answer 1: The Joule's heat, generated by the copper wire, is just equal to 16000 J.
Question 2: Is it necessary to use a calorimeter for measuring this Joule's heat of 16000 J?
Answer 2: No, it is not necessary to use a calorimeter for measuring this Joule's heat of 16000 J. The latter is accepted to be true without any doubt by any electric engineer in the world.
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2) The PEM electrolyzer is connected to a standard DC source thus forming a circuit. The voltmeter registers a voltage of 4VDC, the watt-meter registers a power of 16 Watts, the ammeter registers a current of 4 A, the ohmmeter registers an Ohmic resistance of 1 Ohm and the clock registers a period of 1000 seconds, within which a current of 4 A flows through the PEM electrolyzer.
Question 1: What is the value of the Joule's heat, generated by the PEM electrolyzer?
Answer 1: The Joule's heat, generated by the PEM electrolyzer, is just equal to 16000 J.
Question 2: Is it necessary to use a calorimeter for measuring this Joule's heat of 16000 J?
Answer 2: No, it is not necessary to use a calorimeter for measuring this Joule's heat of 16000 J. The latter is accepted to be true without any doubt by any electric engineer in the world.
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In one word, in this particular case the copper wire and the PEM electrolyzer are absolutely identical and equivalent, if both are considered as Joule's heaters only. As a generator of Joule's heat only, the PEM electrolyzer behaves just like the copper wire. Simple and clear.
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Do you accept the validity of the above extremely simple logic?
   

kolbacict

QuoteAnswer 2: No, it is not necessary to use a calorimeter for measuring this Joule's heat of 16000 J. The latter is accepted to be true without any doubt by any electric engineer in the world.

QuoteHamlet

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,

Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
:)
It is not obvious to me until I measure it myself in a calorimeter.
I would like it to be that way, because I have to spend on fuel.

George1

Hi kolbacict,
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1) It is perfectly valid for the copper wire circuit that (a) the voltmeter registers a voltage of 4VDC, (b) the watt-meter registers a power of 16 Watts, (c) the ammeter registers a current of 4 A, (d) the ohmmeter registers an Ohmic resistance of 1 Ohm and (e) the clock registers a period of 1000 seconds, within which a current of 4 A flows through the copper wire.
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2) It is perfectly valid for the PEM electrolyzer circuit that (a) the voltmeter registers a voltage of 4VDC, (b) the watt-meter registers a power of 16 Watts, (c) the ammeter registers a current of 4 A, (d) the ohmmeter registers an Ohmic resistance of 1 Ohm and (e) the clock registers a period of 1000 seconds, within which a current of 4 A flows through the PEM electrolyzer.
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3) What is the difference between previous items 1 and 2? 

kolbacict

The simplest calorimeter is a defined volume of water with a known heat capacity.Surrounded by thermal insulation.By the change in temperature, we solve about the number of joules. right?
You make me do it myself. You live well there.And here life is not sweet.I have to do many things that do not bring pleasure.But  need to make a living. :)