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A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1

Started by George1, January 28, 2019, 02:58:40 AM

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George1

#385
December 12, 2020, 09:43:16 AM
To Floor.
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You are not reading my posts at all. This is not a discussion. This is your monologue. This is an old and clumsy manipulation trick, which does not work already in XXI century when there is an internet and most people are well informed and educated. You are obviously an agent of the official science mafia.   
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I strongly believe and hope that the last sentence is not true. Let us check again (and for the last time) whether you are an agent of the official science mafia or not. Please read carefully the text below and answer 6 simple theoretical questions.
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1) The correct equation for the law of conservation of energy for standard water-splitting electrolysis is 
V x I x t = (I x I x R x t) + (Z x I x t x (HHV)) + (X) (1B),
where
V x I x t = input energy = electric energy, which is generated by the DC source, and which is consumed by the electrolyzer
I x I x R x t = Q = Joule's heat, which is generated by the electrolyzer = output energy 1
Z x I x t x (HHV) = output energy 2 = heat, which is generated by burning/exploding of the released hydrogen
X = output energy 3 = sum of all additional energies, which are necessary (a) for splitting of water molecules into hydrogen and oxygen atoms, (b) for collateral chemical reactions due to the impurity of the electrolyte, (c) for forming of bubbles etc., etc.
QUESTION 1. DO YOU HAVE ANY THEORETICAL (ONLY THEORETICAL!) OBJECTIONS AGAINST THIS ITEM 1?
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2) It is evident from the above equality (1B) that (V x I x t) is the sum and that (I x I x R x t), (Z x I x t x (HHV)) and (X) are the addends, respectively.
QUESTION 2. DO YOU HAVE ANY THEORETICAL (ONLY THEORETICAL!) OBJECTIONS AGAINST THIS ITEM 2?
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3) According to the rules of standard arithmetic the sum is always bigger than any of the addends (forming that same sum). Therefore the
sum (V x I x t) is bigger than the addend (I x I x R x t). Therefore we can write down the inequality V x I x t > I x I x R x t (2B).
QUESTION 3. DO YOU HAVE ANY THEORETICAL (ONLY THEORETICAL!) OBJECTIONS AGAINST THIS ITEM 3?
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4) Now let us divide both sides of inequality (2B) by (I x t), that is,
V x I x t > I x I x R x t (2B) < = >
< = > (V x I x t)/(I x t) > (I x I x R x t)/(I x t) (3B) < = >
< = > V > I x R (4B).
QUESTION 4. DO YOU HAVE ANY THEORETICAL (ONLY THEORETICAL!) OBJECTIONS AGAINST THIS ITEM 4?
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5) The last inequality (4B) shows a severe violation of Ohm's law. (Because the correct mathematical expression for Ohm's law is V = I x R (5B).)
QUESTION 5. DO YOU HAVE ANY THEORETICAL (ONLY THEORETICAL!) OBJECTIONS AGAINST THIS ITEM 5?
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6) The obvious invalidity of inequality V > I x R (4B) directly leads to the invalidity of equality V x I x t = (I x I x R x t) + (Z x I x t x (HHV)) + (X) (1B). Therefore the law of conservation of energy is not valid in this particular water-splitting electrolysis case.
QUESTION 6. DO YOU HAVE ANY THEORETICAL (ONLY THEORETICAL!) OBJECTIONS AGAINST THIS ITEM 6?
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All we here in this forum are waiting for your 6 answers.

Floor

#386
December 13, 2020, 09:24:55 PM
Hello George 1

You are not reading my posts at all. This is not a discussion. This is your monologue. This is an old and clumsy manipulation trick, which does not work already in XXI century when there is an internet and most people are well informed and educated.

You are obviously a scamming con man.

You started this topic on 01/28/19. 

   Here is your original statement / claim / bait.

https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/pages_1-6.pdf

Since that time (10 months), have you conducted and presented any
experiment which would support your claim that a simple electrolysis process
which results in H and O release is over unity, once the H and O
are then burned ?

Have you learned anything in those 10 months, from this topic?
If  so, what and will you share that with us ?

I for one, do not believe that you, your self, think this claim is O.U...

@ George1

1. Didn't you know that the electrolysis plus the burning of the H and O is not O.U..

2. Didn't you know that this forum has had dozens of explorations of, and thousands of pages dedicated precisely to the examining of variations of the electrolysis process in an O.U. context ?

3. The electrical energy converted to heat energy in a PURELY resistive circuit is 1 per 1.

4. This is true for  ANY  PURELY  resistive electric circuit whether the resistor is solid or liquid.

5. An electrical circuit is   NO LONGER a PURELY   resistive circuit when electrolysis occurs.

Leely

#387
December 14, 2020, 04:41:20 AM
You know that higher frequencies operate incandescent bulbs and heater elements to higher efficiencies, even at lower amp draws?
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