Newton's Magnets

[Floor]

@ all readers

PLEASE see the exceptions at the bottom of the page.

Some points which are critical to understand about this topic.
             Its about
ONE
                            .... straight line or LINEAR MOTIONS ...

                            .....AT 90 DEGREES .....

of a magnet or magnets, in relationship to another / other magnets.

TWO

The energy present as the motion of an "output magnet or magnets"     
                                 ..... AFTER ..
a "shielding magnet or magnets" has been
                                ..... COMPLETELY....
removed from between those other magnets, is also permissible as on topic.

THREE

The energy required to install or remove a "shielding magnet or magnets"
between  or from between "output magnets" is also permissible as on topic.

FOUR

The topic is about  START then COMPLETED MOTION then STOP  and THEN
the next motion / action devices  only.

Participants / readers, please understand that these are the only conditions,
under which I have observed "over unity" in terms of the ratio of input mechanical work to
output mechanical work.

NEXT

With one exception the LowQ Tinman exploration / design will be considered as on topic.

NEXT

The discussion is also (ALMOST ) entirely limited to ceramic magnet application.

Again with one exception,  the LowQ Tinman exploration / design.  Please do your best
to stick to the ceramics.

   best wishes
           floor

[Floor]

@ Lumen

Quote from floor
"As a relavent example, consider an apple sitting upon Newton's desk.  The force of gravity
is pulling upon that apple.  But there is (by definition) no work being done upon the
apple and there is no expenditure of gravitational energy unless the apple  falls."
end quote

See also this link below

https://overunity.com/18234/new-version-of-flotation-device/msg535512/#msg535512

EDIT here / addendum ...1/23/22
Link is to an attempt by me to apply right angle interaction toa gravity based device...

[Floor]

@ All readers

Here is the basis of the topic of discussion

Equal and opposite forces.

It requires the same energy expenditure to pull two magnets in attraction apart,
as those magnets delivered during their attraction to each other.

Because Newtons laws are valid, and also because of the  two pole nature of permanent magnets...........

we can change the positions of two magnets, which are in close proximity to one another,
without doing work against the magnetic forces between those  magnets.  To see an example of this
illustrated,  open the PDF attached below.

We can get energy from magnets, cyclically and repeatedly.

We accomplish this by limiting motions to specific vectors  (right angle and or near right angle vectors),
by neutralization of (balancing of) attracting and repelling forces along specific vectors, and preventing
motions along specific other vectors.

To see this done watch this video, Titled "amazeing"

                          https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6gzr2q

   PDF attached below.

           floor

[lumen]

@ Floor


There are many new people in the forum that don't have a good understanding of how physics and mechanical devices operate and most have likely not been here when you first posted your test setup on this principal. If you were to check back you would see I was there.


I was a Journeyman machinist for 15 years and I have a building full of CNC machines that I wrote custom software to do nearly any task, including taking force measurements from many combinations of magnetic interactions.
Then I was a mechanical and electrical engineer for 25 years and now retired.


I'm not bragging, just don't need reminding of trivial physics and work calculation.


I was working on a way to determine if work can actually be done in a uniform magnetic field because the Faraday device that claims it is doing so is not a conclusive test.


So I should no doubt return back to that task and see where that leads and let you continue on.
Thanks for letting me post, it was a good distraction.

[Floor]

@Lumen

Be well.

  floor