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Magnetic wheel by steel shielding

Started by vineet_kiran, February 02, 2019, 08:15:48 AM

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nix85

Quote from: vineet_kiran on March 17, 2021, 09:02:42 PM
The shield absorbs flux from left magnet and holds it on left side,  also absorbs flux from right magnet and holds it on right side.  The repelling flux on left and right side stay within the shield without repelling.  Is that so?

Don't you see when he puts magnet pole on the material there is no attraction or repulsion. If it was "absorbing flux" in ferromagnetic way as you imply, there would be attraction.

vineet_kiran

Is it the same L shaped shield used in this motor?  Why rotor is experiencing force if flux is totally abosorbed?

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nix85

I don't think the two are related at all.

antijon

Nix, I tend to agree with you more than not. lol I never studied magnet motors, but I also think your idea would lock due to attracting poles.

In my mind magnets are unipolar and similar to gravity. Because field lines always close, an attract will always beat an oppose. In free space, you'd never find two magnetic fields in opposition because a torque would be developed to cause them to attract. And I say it's similar to gravity because if you just took a giant wad of magnets randomly oriented, they'd still be bound together, and the effect on neighboring magnets would be a net attract. Similar to iron with it's random domains, yet an ability to attract any magnetic field.

I guess that means I also think there's an opposing field of gravity, but you'd never see it in nature. I mean, if we look at the earth like a piece of steel and we're the magnet, how can we change the magnet to repel the steel? Doesn't seem feasible.

lancaIV

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It can also be observed: If the rotating gyro tries to tilt its axis of rotation, then a force can be registered perpendicular to the direction of tilt of the axis of rotation. The faster the top rotates, the greater the forces (which are also called gyroscopic forces ). This can be explained by the high angular momentum of the top, which has to be changed in its direction. Its change takes place in the direction in which the axis of rotation is tilted and requires a torque that lies in the tilting plane. The torque to be applied determines the force acting perpendicular to the direction of tilt.


Conversely, a torque perpendicular to a rotating top does not cause it to change its orientation around the axis of the torque, but rather tilts in the direction of the torque axis.


Gyroscopic behavior based on an enclosed body. The explanation of the gyroscopic behavior may be computationally logical,


            but the angular momentum itself is not a very clear variable.


            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angular_momentum


Therefore, to check the plausibility of the processes, assume a body that is enclosed in the top. As long as the top rotates stably around its figure axis, the top only has to exert a centripetal force on the enclosed body . It gets exciting when the rotation axis of the top is tilted and the movement of the body is analyzed. Then the enclosed body also moves in the tilting direction, but constantly changes its side and thus its direction of movement, i.e. its speed . In the direction of the perpendicular to the tilting plane, the enclosed body leads a sinusoidal oscillationout. This means that there is a rest point at the apex and in the "zero crossing", when changing the tilting side, there is the greatest change in the "tilting speed" and thus the greatest force effect. So the top wants to break out of the way when tilting.


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It is known that the effort required by two magnets acting on one another is much less if the magnets are shifted laterally to one another instead of being torn off.




Magnetic potentialmay refer to:


Magnetic vector potential, the vector whose curl is equal to the magnetic B field.


Magnetic scalar potential, the magnetic analogue of electric potential.




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My invention is based upon the fact hitherto unknown, that there exists in the magnetic field or field of attraction of every magnet, at a greater or less distance from the magnet, what I term a neutral line at which soft iron will not be polarized, or magnetized, by the inductive action of the magnet.The location of the neutral line as regards its distance from the magnet differs in different cases, the line approaching the magnet in proportion to the increase in strength of the magnet and receding as the size or cubic contents of the armature is increased.