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IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas

Started by ramset, March 14, 2019, 11:35:40 AM

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Danzik

Have patience. There are many highly qualified individuals vetting the science over the next few months starting Tuesday of this week, and there will be several follow up news articles.

k4zep

Interesting description by Mr. Danzik,I suspect that a few numbers got "futzed" up in his description.He describes the clasic "Pushing" asmetrical wheel with the "sticky Point" that we have all tried to build at one time or another.His device is just a heck of a lot bigger to start.  Then we have to get into why it works!

My lifelong obsession with magnetics began as a child, and I started working on Magnetic Propulsion in 2009 when some rare earth magnets became low cost enough for me to afford access to those products. I started laboratory work on the Engine and its components in 2010. I started working floor models in mid 2011.

My background is that of a trained industrial engineer, and I did complete grad work in product development at MIT/Sloan in 2009. I am not a physicist, but I can keep pace with most of the post doctoral discussions in regard to magnetics over the last 10 years. The vast majority of my career time has been in a laboratory development environment.

I do like the name "magnetics" as it applies to magnetism as an applied science that studies magnetic fields and magnetic radiation paths in relation to opposing and attracting magnetic fields. In other words, I have little interest at this time in measures and experimenting with magnetic fields working on a conductor.

I will not be responding in any way to my posts. They are for information only and not intended to start a conversation. My posts are not intended to inform you on how Magnetic Propulsion works in detail, or that I need to "prove it" to anyone on these types of message boards. The information is not greatly detailed, as I have little extra time in my life, but I do want to casually inform as many people as possible.  I appriciate the start here.  It gives us some inkling into how his device works.

The Earth Engine, which is based on Magnetic Propulsion, functions from the force developed by a paired magnetic field. The magnetic field STARTS and ACCELERATES the flywheel on its own force, once attenuated. Most of our flywheel combinations are greater than 800 kg. 



My development is the control of entropy in the system. The applied science of Magnetic Propulsion first diminishes the point of entropy and then uses that entropy to ACCELERATE the flywheel in what we call a "slingshot".  Entropy control is an interesting concept, I just look at it as field bending or diminishing via mechanical means thus allowing the wheel to move past the sticky point.

Entropy in my system occurs at only one point in the rotation of the flywheel. This has taken me years to calculate and refine. Let's say at 350 degrees as an example, entropy is at maximum (force in the opposite direction of the desired direction). So from 0 to 358 the flywheel is being pushed and accelerates continuously. Now, obeying all physical laws, if I did not control entropy, the flywheel would slow and eventually stop.  At 359 degrees I have developed a way to attenuate the magnetic field that is already "lopsided" or asymmetrical. The flywheel then makes it past the reversing force and then enters the "slingshot" and then the flywheel, using the opposing force greatly accelerates from 359 to about 15 degrees.
So the wheel is pushed to rotate.  IF the wheel is lopsided field wise, it has the weakest field between 355 and 359 degrees, and then the field is strongest at 0 degrees (sticky point) and you have to hide/lower/diminish or bend the attenuation section with the repulsing field temporary to get it over this point.  IF this mechanical attenuation requires less energy input than the wheel retains during one revolution, AT SPEED, you have a energy producing device.

There are only two fields opposing at a time. One from the attenuation section (what we call fuel), and the flywheel magnetic field (what we call receptors). There are no electromagnets, or any device coupling to the flywheel. It is a zero contact device that is also magnetically levitated.  The unique thing is the output is not dependent on how many "fuel" sections are available, it just spins the wheel up to a X amount of rpm. 

Attenuation of the field is accomplished through the bending of the paired fields. This is a major breakthrough. We keep both the geometry (shape) and geography (where the magnetic fuel is placed)(the pattern).  I think he mans that he doesn't move the "fuel" section, he just changes the shape of the field and therby lowers the interactive forces in the fields allowing a receptor to pass by/through the field hence getting it into a new power cycle.

On the laboratory device "Crystal" you can see the firing of the attenuation device every 360 degrees. It consumes about 20 watts on average per firing.  1 pulse/revolution, 20 watts of energy used/pulse.  At 60 RPM, you would be using 1200 watts per min. average.   That don't make sense.  More likely, at running speed of say 300 RPM, it would make sense that the average power required to run the "fuel" section attenuator would average 20 watts. 

Crystal has a 100 watt alternator rectified to 24 volts. It is also magnetically driven.  This is or has problems based on the statement in #1 below.  If the alternator is 100 watts, it is a dynamic load, whether RMS or pulse output into a diode recifier into a Cap. or a battery.  A load is a load is a load.  A mechanically coupled load is the same as a magnetically coupled load unless as he says below the load on the alternator is limited to not drain more energy out of the wheel that it has at any point in time at a given RPM.

Crystal was built SOLELY to prove the applied science of Magnetic Propulsion. The simple fact that two magnetic fields produce a force, and when harvested, that force can spin a flywheel. That flywheel can then charge a battery or capacitor.  This I understand.

Now, here are some very important facts;

1. Crystal is NOT a dynamic motor. Magnetic Propulsion is not dynamic (instant) in its power delivery. It is inertia. It delivers power (which can then spin a generator) by accelerating a flywheel and storing that energy. You cannot in any way hook a dynamic load to a Magnetic Propulsion Engine. It will just stop, and it will stop quickly. As we all have learned over the past few years!

2. Magnetic Propulsion Engines work by creating inertia in a very specialized flywheel (some 257 parts) that refuse to magnetize in the presence of a large and powerful magnetic field. Obviously the wheel should not create a load on itself due to loading from eddy currents.  That would just lower the efficiency and is the reason that magnetic bearings are used, all to lower and vertually eliminate dynamic loading.  Once up to speed (125 to 350 RPM) you have a great way to harvest kinetic energy by spinning an alternator. The alternator is not allowed to exceed a specific load, based on its affect on inertia. This is also a closely held trade secret. Think of it as a very large electrical "pump".  I suspect inertia of the spinning wheel is the secret of why this device works if it does.  As the torque generated by a spinning wheel has a velocity squared component, the output is non linear and as the speed increases.  The faster it spins, the more instantaneous energy is available vs the input energy.  Getting a spinning magnetic motor to run by eliminating the "sticky spot" was the first step.  Learning how much additional power was available from the inertia forces generated was the second step.  Controlling the amount energy taken out of the wheel without slowing it was just control programming.

3. Magnetic Propulsion requires STORAGE. A battery or capacitor. You can charge 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Probably most efficient with pulse or a pump type of charging.

4. Magnetic Propulsion requires a BATTERY or CAPACITOR for its parasitic energy to run its attenuation section. But this is only about 20W p/s at 60 RPM. So the battery is very small.I think I read that the bigger motor/generators required about 400W average to run also.  There would not appear to be any reason that this battery could be topped off by the large STORAGE battery.  Technically, it could be a large cap with an initial charge to get the thing started.  Then self charging and self running.

5. Crystal's flywheel weighs in at 622 LBS where our commercial Engine flywheels are just over 4,000 LBS.  In this case, probably bigger is better, and radius of wheel is important.

6. Magnetic Propulsion is not "over unity" or perpetual motion. It receives its power from over 5,000 PSI of pressure from an accelerated magnetic field. My developed magnetic fuel has "pull forces" (a common measure used in magnetism) of over 10,000 Pounds. This type of force requires not only great safety procedures but has also led to great breakthroughs in the handling of these very powerful magnets.  Don't get to overexcited about those PSI numbers, more important is the vector forces produced around the wheel and the resultant energy put into the wheel during each rotation. It would be very productive to show a chart of input energy, output energy and RPM's.  Would really give a hint on how it works.

This coming week, IEC will be producing a complete explanatory broadcast program called "Introduction to Magnetic Propulsion" which will air on www.earthenginelive.com. It will be broadcast live and then repeated at specific times during the day. Broadcast times will be announced this coming Monday morning on the IEC Website (www.ie.energy) and on www.earthenginelive.com.

The program will take you through the entire Magnetic Propulsion Cycle and introduce our new transparent control panel with consumption and output meters (compliments of AccuEnergy).

I sincerely hope that you will tune in !  It will be most interesting, I certainly will tune in or tune into one of the repeats.

I hope that my addition to this Board is helpful. I sincerely hope that you will stay tuned in and learn more about IEC and Magnetic Propulsion.

In closing, I also know that I am inviting biting comments, and negative, maybe even slanderous statements. That's OK at this point, but you should know that I really do not care. Your negatives will have zero impact on my earnings or my work product. However, your thoughtful criticisms and ideas may help you be a part of the hard work and dedication to the dozens of people working at IEC, which is growing in number monthly.

Thank you for your Time and Interest !  Always!

And please refrain from comments on spelling, typos and grammar, (none of us have that kind of time for these Boards)!

  8) 

Dennis M Danzik

Just my meandering thoughts.Ben K4ZEP

MadMack

Mr. Danzik has given out the gist of his engine so it should be plain that this is a viable design. The 20 watts that Crystal uses is not magically transformed into OU. Those watts are used to apply a much stronger force.

You have the rotor weight, the RPM, the magnetic force applied and the approximate degrees of rotation of that application. I don't see the rotor diameter but it's fairly easy to estimate. We don't have the rotor's mass distribution and some other info but there is enough to start with.

Do the math and you can estimate how many watts can be siphoned off and still maintain the desired average RPM.

Acca

WoW that was Great Response Mr. Danzik.


So........ where is "the Koala"  ???  spoiler...



100 million as that what WSJ said on Friday..What a company is...this !!!


Anyone remember Ken Wheeler and all the pathetic attacks on him and his magnetic constructs .. shame on all of you..


Thanks to IEC.. I believe this will be an incredible company, and all the petty pathetic egos get a reality check.


Danzik has left  "you" on the sidelines in the dust...


I bought the WSJ and the paper located the story in the tech section second to the last page on Friday ..and that
was a big mistake or an overt effort to squash these great guys..


If you don't believe this or are you an ass because you have to prove that this is a scam this forum is NOT for You!!


Go get out and build one of your own and get 100 million too..


Acca..

memoryman

Acca: TK, Simon D. and myself have shown the many flaws (terminal ones) in the alleged operation of the IEC device.
Even Stefan has reservations.
At NO point did IEC DEMONSTRATE their claims.
Where do you see a load applied to Crystal?