Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum [with free speech]

[AlienGrey]

Yes what Nelson is saying is as it should be and we should behave, but in saying that there are some
nicknames on here who demand those with know-how develop stuff and not only share knowledge but demand
a device that guaranteed to be not only a worker but at least a 2 kW self-running device!
If you then turn round and try and point out a few pearls of wisdom they are ignoring, they then start to slag the
helper off and use demeaning insults of miss information and followed by insults for one's trouble.
This is very bad !

[SolarLab]

And with that, my good fellows,

I LEAVE YOU IN PEACE!

[F6FLT]

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I do know if you keep engaging Viziv corp [or Wesley's investigation into them and their work] by writing Scam references ...this would be perceived as libel in any court in my country and would most definitely place our host in harms way [expensive lawsuits].
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I hope they will sue me, at least they will have to prove their perpetual motion machine in front of independent experts, and the cost of the trial if I lose it will quickly be offset by my savings on the cost of my electricity...   

Chet, when you talk about the mixing of everything and anything on the forum, you hit a sore point, but you have to go through with it. This is how free energy questions are raised on the forums from the very beginning. There is no progress, unlike in the academic sciences, because we are not able to distinguish between things and eliminate absurdities.
So people have been repeating the same topics over and over since the 1990s, newcomers are taking up the absurdities of the past and the cycle is starting all over again. We are still talking about Lutec, Perendev, free space longitudinal waves, gyroscopes that lose weight, magnets or weights that provide more energy than their potential energy etc etc. etc. while we do not have the least reproducible experimental evidence.

Is there a consensus on what we have learned from our failures? A synthesis of fraudulent miracle machines or machines with non-duplicable effects? Not even. We are at the same point as 20 years ago, with gurus who talk us about overunity like omniscient prophets, with believers in anything even in the Pink Unicorn if the former tell them that it farts high pressure HOO, with despised scientific knowledge and method, and with skeptics who are fought against because they try to bring back a little rationality that might bother gurus and the wishful thinking of their adepts.

While we could do very interesting things on the fringes of science, we are facing obscurantism and blind faith, and consequently no result.

[F6FLT]

...What these people do not understand is that even having the right to opinion, because it has that freedom, but can not interfere with the freedom of others, or in their opinions , is very clear and simple.
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What not everyone understands is that what some people say in public can be criticized in public. Respect for people does not imply respect for their beliefs or for everything they tell us. If that were the case, no one could say anything anymore, because there will always be somewhere someone who have a different opinion and might feel shocked.

Then a forum, by definition, is a place for discussion. If people refuse to discuss, or apply excessive and indiscriminate censorship, they have nothing to do on a forum. Whether they blog or stay on youtube by inhibiting comments.

[nelsonrochaa]

What not everyone understands is that what some people say in public can be criticized in public. Respect for people does not imply respect for their beliefs or for everything they tell us. If that were the case, no one could say anything anymore, because there will always be somewhere someone who have a different opinion and might feel shocked.

Then a forum, by definition, is a place for discussion. If people refuse to discuss, or apply excessive and indiscriminate censorship, they have nothing to do on a forum. Whether they blog or stay on youtube by inhibiting comments.

I agree with you, but it is also true that you have already shown your point of view, and I at least have already read it and I think other people do too.
What do you need more? What do you want to add to what you've already said?
I do not understand, such persistence and resilience.
I think most users will be of age, to make their own decisions about this or another topic. do not you think ?
Good luck