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Open Source Vs. Patenting

Started by FreeEnergy, December 17, 2006, 04:22:26 PM

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Open Source Vs. Patenting

I choose Open Source
57 (63.3%)
I choose Patenting
11 (12.2%)
I choose neither
3 (3.3%)
I choose both
18 (20%)
I don't care
0 (0%)
I don't get it?
1 (1.1%)

Total Members Voted: 90

lancaIV

Quote from: Marsing on November 15, 2013, 08:42:33 AM
thank for you explanation,
but i did not go deep into kind of patent or how to patent yet.


i read  moray book,

http://kristofferhell.net/doc/sea-of-energy_henry-t-moray.pdf

is that situation  same with current situation?,
the  main problem is situation.
if not go and get patent,

every being from bowels of the earth to the moon to the mars till pluto will
come to the earth surface patenting device.

don't worry, human will be serviced first .
Think easy like patenting=open sourcing and nobody ( hopefully for good peacefull intnetions) can stop somebody to applicate and replicate the descripted patent object !
And if anybody think to "forget" important object functionality pieces :
this guy automatic loose the given "monopolar commercial ( no private area) claim(-s)  rights" as is written in the PCT/WIPO (down to national patent offices) contract rules !
                To receive PCT rights never forget to also accept the obligations !

Then there is the second step : UAL/TUEV and similar security org approval to get assurance
security and to know the own/family/neighbour object function risks !
Think about your responsibility ! Without assurance security you will have to pay 100% and
need to approve that not you are guilty and judged by law with up to several years prison !


As DIYer you will need for each constructed object several kinds of aval/approvements:
to save your life/health/patrimony and the life/health and patrimony from all others around you ! This costs time and money,is it not ? More discussion ?


Bye
       OCL

Marsing

thank for your repaly
Quote from: lancaIV on November 15, 2013, 09:43:10 AM

Then there is the second step : UAL/TUEV and similar security org approval to get assurance
security and to know the own/family/neighbour object function risks !
Think about your responsibility ! Without assurance security you will have to pay 100% and
need to approve that not you are guilty and judged by law with up to several years prison !


its became more interesting, (second step , money again), what about i included manual operation in packet, it's describe function risk,all possible damage to user, how to operate, and wrote down  ' i am not responsible to all any damage, before or after use of this device. keeping, using, buying mean that you  agree with this term '.  etc. 
am i still responsible?
I saw this on some pages on web.
the difference is webpage or diy book only show how to build or to operate without actual device.
i am doubt webpage content writer or book writer have UAL/TUEV approval.

Quote
As DIYer you will need for each constructed object several kinds of aval/approvements:
to save your life/health/patrimony and the life/health and patrimony from all others around you ! This costs time and money

are you suggesting would be better to deal/cooperate with company or something else?.



Marsing

lol, 
os vs p is very hot,
I just read page by page. i did not know about it yet.

lancaIV

Marsing, your question :'are you suggesting would be better to deal/cooperate with company or something else?' is an 1 Tri-/Billion$ and more answer worth !
Cause this treats the future economy working principle !
My father worked at last as consultant,each day for less than 500 Euros,conventional  price.
You did a geral/open source question-you and the other viewers will get a geral view:


1. From 8 billions habitants/?millions households on earth (private/com(m)ercial)
    how many do you want/need? to reach ?
    How many are analphabets or does not use your booklet-language ?
    (f.e. Metro/city of Miami: phone call payment letter in 23 different languages !)
2. How many has the tools to realize the booklet object/-s ? your idea :only selling ?
   ( our household is full from my brother sended electronical equipment,not in use;
     I am also an DIY: trying to install a Satellte-dish and connect the cable let me felt the"little
     current" )
3. What is a fairly prize ? In the so called "3.world" people earns the aequivalent of 1US$
                                per day-if finding employment
4.Where is the greatest emergency -the greatest search - of your solution ?
   Worldwide helping NGOs ? F.e. also the catholic( roman-c/protestants ::) /jewish/buddhists/
   muslims/ naturalists ??? / .......church network ?
5.Has you only this idea or more ? Will you help at first only yourself and your family or also
    other - their ideas and solutions finance backpacking?
6. Emissonary/embassy network : kindergarden/schools/university/ church-temple-radio/tv-
                                   internet and extranet( mouth-to-mouth-propaganda)
7. ........
I am here not the "lonesome surfer" -we all can input the :future ? and (possible) answer-
                                                             puzzle
                                               including "surfin' U.S.A."
Bye-bye
             OCL
p.s. ::) : what did "Geenpeace" and other similar .org for the FE-scene ?
              And their idea fellows (poor and rich ?)
              Do not think mono-/bi-/but ambi-valent(value and wagging inside ):
              booklet- C.A.D.plan - DIY-kit - Ready-to-use-solution
                                                              (there is to much "2 linke Haende)
             Other "embassy": worker unions : worker=consumer and producer
                                          Chamber of comerce: company-owner=consumer and producer
             Test field : Conrad Electronics Lab ?
              In questions and answers no/doubt and no/scepsis is ever allowed- my personal view
              and

                                                   O- pinion  8)

forest

lancaIV


The device must meet such requirements:
- simple
- easy to get parts
- not costly
- VALUABLE FOR COMMUNITY


A good example is here http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/10/tech/innovation/solar-powered-led-lamps/ but it may be even better if OU powered lamps would be distributed.


the patent is not about anything usable, it's about the rights to produce ! Actually patents are used to prevent production, that's why you HAVE TO PATENT to don't let malicious person do that and stop your good plan.
Surely I'm also 100% sure inventor should be recompensated with a quite large sum of money to allow him working on next big inventions.