Open Source Vs. Patenting

[starcruiser]

The only real thing the patent office does is give the government the ability to steal the invention from you. The first thing the patent office does is allow the government to review the data to determine if it is worthy of use by the government or if it is a national security risk (a risk to the financial stability/market as they see it). IF any of this holds true they confiscate it and tell the person/group who attempted to patent it that it already was patented and the government holds the patent and threatens them with jail and/or court action if they continue pursuing the tech.

The other side of the coin is if the idea is worthy and not a threat to the establishment, it will be leaked to a friendly company while the patent office holds up your application so the other company can file and get approval first, thus locking the little guy out of the opportunity.

I say open source is the only way to go, this at least prevents the suppression mechanism of the government and Big Business stealing the idea. I agree with the idea of sharing it with a lot of others and produce copies and release them at the same time, this would at least give them (the elites) a headache and give the inventor a chance at get the tech out there for the masses to benefit from and potentially make a few bucks in the process.

[ashtweth_nihilisti]

here here

people don't understand that your not patenting a device, your threating the status quo
there is no such thing as a patent on a free energy device, ask Newman.

Until we have a centralized hub where in the public eye we can validate,  disclose and protect inventions like can be the case in the example of the proposed granted Panacea research and development center
http://panacea-bocaf.org/researchanddevelopment.htm
inventors are better off seeking remuneration or money through open source books sales like Ossie freedom.

Ash

[utilitarian]

@utilitarian
Would U please give us some more solid examples of working FE devices  getting to --- zero?
Are those technical issues or personal issues?

I assume open source always give immediate positive educational effects for general public on tech ideas and info.
Would that be considered overall as a better human achievement !?

You want an example of there being no working free energy devices?  How can there be an example of that?  There can only be an example of a working free energy device, of which there is none.  If you have an example of anything that has been verified, it would be earth-shattering news, so out with it, my good man!

I have no issue with open source.  Software, in particular, has benefitted much from the open source movement.  Though it should be noted that software development in particular lends itself to open source more than any other area I can think of, because it can be shared so easily, and work is easy to divide up.

And Ashtweth, I cannot believe you are dragging up EBM, one of the most notorious huckster companies in Hungary, and based on what?  Because you called them on the phone and they assured you they have a device?  Laughable.  Oh wait, and they want a lot of money?  Funny how that goes.  Do you know of a single company that uses an EBM to power anything?  Thought so.

[ashtweth_nihilisti]

Hang on i remember you, i remember you usually make allot of incredulous assumptions and have no real contribution's, i remember you now
They have a physical device, go and see it and read the reports. its more then you have

Way more then you have.
i have no need or desire to discuss particulars with you, as now i remember you, my time is far more precious

You like that one?
I do

Regards
Ash

[utilitarian]

Hang on i remember you, i remember you usually make allot of incredulous assumptions and have no real contribution's, i remember you now
They have a physical device, go and see it and read the reports. its more then you have

Way more then you have.
i have no need or desire to discuss particulars with you, as now i remember you, my time is far more precious

You like that one?
I do

Regards
Ash

My contributions have resulted in exactly as many free energy breakthroughs as your contributions - exactly zero.

If you believe the EBM is real based on some reports, you are gullible beyond comprehension.  Name one company that has bought and uses an EBM device to power anything.  Surely there is one - they have been selling these things for years, right?