Open Source Vs. Patenting

[gyulasun]

Hello Ash,

No it is not a gravity but an electromagnet-permanent magnet combined electric motor, based on his unique magnetic valve. You can find the principle of it on peswiki.
Well, we do not know how much his patent lawyers are trying to rip him off too 

Cheers,  Gyula

[AB Hammer]

@ashtweth_nihilis

Thanks for the memo. I knew of it before. That is why the moment you file, you have to go public. The people will become the pressure to keep it from getting buried. Then it will work for you.

[ashtweth_nihilisti]

Very good advice!

Yes, its a shame people before did not know that by book sales you could make money still from open sourcing it, AGAIN OSSIE FREEDOM MAKES 3-4 MILLION PER YEAR IN BOOKS SALES.

shame about Jack with his gravity wheel, he did not know he could do what Ossie freedom did!

look here (from the panacea page)

"I also have a working gravity machine. The one I have is only about 24In. in dia. and puts out enough power to light several tail light bulbs from a car. This gravity machine could be scaled up to easily power a house.I have never gotten a patent on this thing. It also could be turned loose to the public. I have invested about $6000.00 in this project, how do I get that back if I go public. My patent attorney has told me if the US puts a hold on the project they at least have to pay me my investment in the project."

[Joe Kelley]

I have an open source experiment for y'all

I invented a political/economic LAW and I call this law Joe's Law. I tried to get Wikipedia to publish it; however that effort failed.

The political/economic LAW is my discovery; the words describing the political/economic Law are my invention.

The reason why this open source experiment is being offered in this thread could become obvious to the reader as the reader works on the open source experiment.

Someone, or many people, suggest that open source won?t make someone rich and the alternative is to patent an invention so as to get rich as the patent enforces the elimination of competitors who re-produce the item that is under the patent enforcement mechanism.

Once the reader becomes familiar with the political/economic LAW (as it exists in reality) their notions of patent enforcement may change.

I?ll offer my invention of wording (Joe?s Law) of the political/economic LAW and then describe a few illustrations as to how it works in reality. Any reader can compete in this open source experiment whereby the political/economic LAW is described with better wording through the open source business model. Someone can steal the discovery or the credit for discovering the law and as far as I am concerned it really doesn?t matter once the reader (observer) understands the far reaching implications of the political/economic LAW.

Joe?s Law:

Power produced into a state of oversupply reduces the price of power while purchasing power increases because power reduces the cost of production.

One possible illustration (one of many possible illustrations) of the above political/economic LAW concerns any device that produces more power than the power expended during its production. 

An example illustration that currently exists is the Solar Panel; therefore I?ll use the Solar Panel as the first illustration of the political/economic LAW (I call it Joe?s Law).

Again:

Joe?s Law:
Power produced into a state of oversupply reduces the price of power while purchasing power increases because power reduces the cost of production.

I can link to one solar panel producer claiming to offer a product that pays for itself in one year. That means that you buy the solar panel and one year later the solar panel produces enough electricity to pay for the solar panel.

Other solar panels are now sold with a 25 year guarantee of electric production.

Certainly the costs of solar panels are reducing while the output of solar panels is increasing so the above is meant to be a general current cost/benefit ratio.

Example:

1000 dollars is the cost of one solar panel.

The one solar panel produces 1000 dollars worth of electricity (at today?s prices) in one year.

The solar panel produces a total of 25,000 dollars worth of electricity (if the price of electricity stays the same) over 25 years time ? guaranteed.

Look at Joe?s Law again (and you can improve the wording if you care to participate in this open source experiment):

Power produced into a state of oversupply reduces the price of power while purchasing power increases because power reduces the cost of production.

Now the idea is to illustrate how Joe?s Law works by cutting and pasting solar panels into the political economy.

Solar panels (power) produced into a state of oversupply reduces the price of solar panels while money (purchasing power) value increases because power reduces the cost of production.

The reason why the word ?political? is employed into Joe?s Law should become obvious to the thinking reader. If, for example, you are going to enforce your patent laws then you may begin to understand why there is an enforcement currently being enforced on the production of each unit of legal money.

You cannot sit at home and manufacture dollars and get away with it for long.

Can you sit at home and manufacture solar panels and get away with it for long?

Now, before I leave this challenge up to you, I will illustrate how Joe?s Law works in reverse:

Power (oil) produced into a state of scarcity will increase the price of power (oil) while purchasing power decreases because power (oil) reduces the costs of production; and therefore everything made with oil will cost more to purchase.

The ball is in your court.

[z.monkey]

Howdy Joe,

Yes, I think Joe's Law has already proven itself to be true.  As the oil supply goes lower and the demand remains the same the market price must rise by the Law of Supply and Demand.  The supply will not increase because oil is a finite resource, so ultimately the price will go higher and higher until the supply is exhausted.  This has to reach a point of diminishing returns where it is just not worth it to use oil based technologies.  The only economically viable thing to do is to develop new sources of energy.  Solar Cells, on the other hand, the cost gets smaller as time goes along.  The more power you pull out of a solar cell over time reduces the cost per kilowatt hour relative to the original cost of the solar cell.  If a cell pays for itself in one year, and produces power for two years its per kilowatt hour cost is reduced to half of the original cost.  If the same solar cell lasts for 10 years its per kilowatt hour cost is reduced to one tenth of the original cost.  As time goes along the solar cells get more cost effective, while oil gets more expensive.  You also need to weigh the hidden costs of oil, tanker spills, wars, propaganda, and cultural brainwashing...

Blessed Be...