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A-King 21 - build discussion /investigation

Started by ramset, July 15, 2019, 09:13:34 PM

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Quote from: a.king21 on July 18, 2019, 07:12:13 PM
Just a note on the circuit I posted.  You have to get into the diode arrangement that Don Smith suggested to see the benefits.  The basic system will just circulate some of the energy back into the system.. i'll post a more complicated circuit when I hone my drawing skills on paint in a bit. It's when you get into the diode systems that you will see more  lethal voltages across the cap or caps.

Hi a.king. Well, I did mention a couple of times already that I don't think it was Don Smith that created that 'DSE'
document. A forum member at energetic forum originally posted that document and mentioned something
about putting that document together based on his understanding of some Don Smith concepts, from what I recall.
I don't recall Don Smith ever specifically talking abut such an approach however, although it is possible.

Having a higher voltage on a capacitor still says nothing about 'OU'. Could you demonstrate what you mean using
the diode arrangement you mention above so people can have something practical to evaluate regarding
the circuit performance?

P.S. See this free online schematic drawing app from Digikey:
https://www.digikey.com/schemeit/project/
Click 'Try it now', if you don't have a Digikey account.

a.king21

Quote from: Void on July 19, 2019, 08:26:16 AM
Hi a.king. Well, I did mention a couple of times already that I don't think it was Don Smith that created that 'DSE'
document. A forum member at energetic forum originally posted that document and mentioned something
about putting that document together based on his understanding of some Don Smith concepts, from what I recall.
I don't recall Don Smith ever specifically talking abut such an approach however, although it is possible.

Having a higher voltage on a capacitor still says nothing about 'OU'. Could you demonstrate what you mean using
the diode arrangement you mention above so people can have something practical to evaluate regarding
the circuit performance?

P.S. See this free online schematic drawing app from Digikey:
https://www.digikey.com/schemeit/project/
Click 'Try it now', if you don't have a Digikey account.
I hear you.  In one of Don's last videos he shows you an earth grounding through  a cap plate mirroring the violet ray input.
Also this is essentially a modernized Benitez system. So there is prior art - we just missed it because Benitez is so complicated to do. You can use an avramenko on the earth side and experiment with it. Loop back is via an air core or ferrite core trafo.  You can use a bridge or try Benitez's double cathode method of feeding back

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Quote from: a.king21 on July 19, 2019, 09:12:43 AM
I hear you.  In one of Don's last videos he shows you an earth grounding through  a cap plate mirroring the violet ray input.
Also this is essentially a modernized Benitez system. So there is prior art - we just missed it because Benitez is so complicated to do.

Hi a.king. Ok, thanks. That's not ringing a bell, but I will see if I can find the video.
It's been some time since I reviewed Don Smith's stuff.

a.king21

Here's a still shot of the video complete with my spelling errors and typos.  Gives it that individual touch :D
So don't think you can only get milliwatts out of an earth ground. I have had a mains shock. Be careful guys this stuff can kill.

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Quote from: a.king21 on July 19, 2019, 09:24:49 AM
Here's a still shot of the video complete with my spelling errors and typos.  Gives it that individual touch :D
So don't think you can only get milliwatts out of an earth ground. I have had a mains shock. Be careful guys this stuff can kill.

Hi a.king. Oh, that demonstration. Ok, I know which one you mean now. :)
Yes, capacitors can 'pass' AC current. HV generators isolated from ground
can still create corona discharge to earth ground or surrounding metallic objects.
Those violet corona discharge streamers carry relatively low current.
However, milliJoules over time adds up to Joules when storing in a suitable capacitor,
which can give major shocks. Still not indicative of OU in itself, however, but this whole
discussion has got me thinking about some possible new circuit arrangements to try, so thanks
for that! I will post some photos here or something if I come across anything interesting.