A-King 21 - build discussion /investigation

[a.king21]

You seem to be missing the point here.  The Ukrainian experiment proved that the insertion of the capacitor increased the output.  It is not about blowing the bulbs. It is about using the extra energy to produce a real gain and loop back into the circuit.
The increased output comes from electrostatic inductance (best from an earth ground). So you buy one  - you get one free - minus system losses. So how to convert the extra unit to you buy one which now becomes 2 and now you get two more free minus system losses.


Or lets put it into joules.
Start 1 joule in  get one joule free.
So loop it and we get 1 joule in plus 1 joule in free - now we get 2 joules more free - minus system losses. and so on ......
So how did Benitez do it?  Take a look guys. Use your brains guys.
We can surely do it better with today's tech.  Can't we???

[TinselKoala]

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   TK: I've also seen what happens to the neons that are placed on HV high frequency circuits, and left there to fry, and get all black. I commented that to Hoppy one day, he wanted to see the "proof", so I did show a similar chard neon bulb. CFl's and florescent bulbs will also get black spots on them, for the same reason. So, which bulb should I fry, next?
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The usual explanation is that the glass becomes sputter-coated with the electrode material that is boiling off the electrodes or simple filaments and being deposited as a thin film on the glass. But there are some intriguing hypotheses concerning possible elemental transformations or transmutations going on and that the black material may not in fact be the same composition as the electrode material itself. One of these days I'm going to ask my friend with the xray fluorescence (XRF) apparatus to take a look at some of the blackened glass envelope material. Or maybe Wesley would like to do it, I'll bet he has an XRF machine in that pile of lab equipment. If he doesn't he should.
At any rate we know we can generate the black bulbs at will, using several different techniques!

[TinselKoala]

You seem to be missing the point here.  The Ukrainian experiment proved that the insertion of the capacitor increased the output.  It is not about blowing the bulbs. It is about using the extra energy to produce a real gain and loop back into the circuit.
The increased output comes from electrostatic inductance (best from an earth ground). So you buy one  - you get one free - minus system losses. So how to convert the extra unit to you buy one which now becomes 2 and now you get two more free minus system losses.


Or lets put it into joules.
Start 1 joule in  get one joule free.
So loop it and we get 1 joule in plus 1 joule in free - now we get 2 joules more free - minus system losses. and so on ......
So how did Benitez do it?  Take a look guys. Use your brains guys.
We can surely do it better with today's tech.  Can't we???

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Sure. Now all we need to do is to agree on just how to measure those free Joules. Most of the time we can agree (not always!) on how to measure that one input joule, and we can usually measure that one output Joule too. It's that free Joule that is shy and doesn't want to show up on monitoring equipment or by powering other loads.

[TinselKoala]

Wow! that's an awesome looking bench. 

You should see it now. It has acquired several more layers since I was doing that old work. I can still run EM wireless but I don't dare run E-field wireless at any substantial power because ... well, just because. Have to go outside for that stuff and it's too darn hot.

[a.king21]

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Sure. Now all we need to do is to agree on just how to measure those free Joules. Most of the time we can agree (not always!) on how to measure that one input joule, and we can usually measure that one output Joule too. It's that free Joule that is shy and doesn't want to show up on monitoring equipment or by powering other loads.

Well it didn't do a bad job blowing those bulbs - so that's a good starting point...