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Overunity Machines Forum



Power from repelling magnets

Started by norman6538, July 20, 2019, 05:01:53 PM

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sm0ky2

Quote from: ayeaye on December 13, 2019, 02:23:05 AM
I cannot measure the strength of the force with compass.


You can measure deflection
Which is proportional to field strength at a given distance
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

ayeaye

Quote from: sm0ky2 on December 14, 2019, 06:16:29 PM
You can measure deflection
Which is proportional to field strength at a given distance

I don't quite understand what do you mean. I need to measure a force on the disk, in the direction of rotation. Rotation can only be in one direction, or in the opposite direction.

My spring scales have not yet arrived, do they need two months to arrive from china?


sm0ky2

The strength of a magnetic field decreases with the square of the distance
If distance is the same, it requires a certain amount of force to deflect the needle
the degree of deflection is directly proportionate to the force, at that distance.
It is an arbitrary proportion, like the rubberband.
Unless you know the moment of inertia of the needle on the substrate.


If your goal is to measure the difference between one side of the field vs the other
This is the best and most accurate tool for the job.


With the disk set-up,
You are working with the leverage of the radius from the fulcrum (bearing)
this is not the same as the linear force.
You will get a measurement, but what are you measuring?




You can also make a vertical set-up, where-in the force measured is a function of
the time derivative of gravity. (stationary gravitational force) E= MGH


It doesn't have to be direct vertical repulsion
You can use the lift or pull force of a known mass on a string
either wrapped around a shaft or using a pulley, or eye-ring







I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

ayeaye

Quote from: sm0ky2 on December 15, 2019, 12:12:54 AM
With the disk set-up,
You are working with the leverage of the radius from the fulcrum (bearing)
this is not the same as the linear force.
You will get a measurement, but what are you measuring?

I'm going to measure the tangent force at the distance from the center of the disk equal to the distance of the center of the nut, or another iron object on the disk, from the center of the disk. As it is a tangent force, it may be in practice considered that it is the same as a linear force.

I'm also going to measure the distance from one place the force was measured, to another, in millimeters. How can i measure the distance in millimeters, in spite it is not linear? Again, it's the distance in millimeters moved on the circle, where is the center of the nut, or another iron object.


ayeaye

My spring scales arrived. This one is 1 Newton, can measure very weak forces. It did cost $2.85 from ebay. I also got another, 5 Newtons, i really wanted 10 Newtons or greater, but these were the cheapest ones i could get.