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Power from repelling magnets

Started by norman6538, July 20, 2019, 05:01:53 PM

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norman6538

My recovery has had some setbacks but I expect to make progress during the next week.
I have to move up to a small bicycle wheel to get the precision needed to get an accurate measurement.

My full health diagnosis is not complete yet but I expect that to come this week after
more tests.

Norman

norman6538

I'm quasi functioning again in less than low gear but I have all the parts made and ready to mount and adjust/weak. I have a break all day tomorrow so expect to have a report tomorrow if my health does not fall apart. I have better adjustability but the repel is very tricky to get right on.

Norman

norman6538

I made a very interesting discovery today. I could not physically align and zero balance the magnets and I suspected that the repel spin had something to do with it. When the attracting magnets on the left would pull the rotor but not align physically then when I pushed the left past the alignment point it found a magnetic balance spot where it took little to move in either direction. Then when I pushed it past that sweet spot the repel took over and kicked the rotor on clockwise.  That spin is why my pendulum only works when the magnetic polarity is correct.

That will affect all of my research - back to the drawing board.

Norman

ayeaye

I think you are trying to go too complex. Trying to make it continuously rotating, you just cannot chop it through. I also made my experiment with a full circle of magnets later. In theory it was supposed to continuously have overunity, but really, the poles tilted in unknown ways, all became very complex and impossible to control, and all was against the wanted effect. And complex, the difference was only having a whole circle of magnets, very simple configuration, but very complex things happening.

This is why i say, trying to make it to continuously rotate is not an easy solution to the problem, and thus not the right thing to do. I said, try to do measurements instead, in the simplest configuration, measure whether there is overunity. Measure the simplest Lafonte effect. Very important, as much as i know, no one has done it yet. Get the force sensitive resistors as i referred to, measure the force at every distance, at two different distances from the bigger magnet. Then do the calculations, calculating the energy for both is very easy, high school physics, once you have these measurements. Mostly try how to measure force with force sensitive resistors, they are really pressure sensitive resistors. I think they would be precise enough, they are cheap so should be tried first, or more advanced pressure sensors should be used.

It is a problem, too many want an easy solution, showing it constantly rotating is great of course, and no need for measurements and calculations. But this always ends with, trying one way, then another way, then another, no result, and a lot of work, may be not for each case separately, but all together a lot of work. Instead of doing the research, methodically, starting from the simplest, measure, calculate. In spite that it sounds a nuisance and too much work, it is really much less work, that certainly has a result, positive or negative, but at least one can see for certain how the things are.

Get a multimeter, costs $4 something, ways to get it free, it measures resistance. Get a few alligator wires, cheap also. Get pressure sensors like resistors.

norman6538

Thanks ayeaye, If you look at my work in the past it is always crude and basic and simple. I am not trying rotation - Yes it is a rotor but I am only trying to measure the power in and out using the rotor with weights lifted and dropped.

I am thinking through this. One way is to go 3D in a way similar to Floor.
Leedskalnin said that either the N or S pole pushes more iron fileings up than the other.

And remember we still do know really know what magnetic fields are. We use them and know their characteristics but do not really know what they are.

Norman