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Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board

Started by ramset, September 18, 2019, 09:15:01 AM

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stivep


mrzlica

Hi Wesley!
I got me cories now after a read few of your posts about the latest toys you have.
Guess you don't need a 10k to construct it so maybe I will try. But well there is always "but", right!
In you post you are mentioning different frequency's, from 6m to 160m or a bit lower if you want to use open IC rig,
which is affordable now. On other hand you suggest to go even lower for the best result.
In that case you don't need the rig but just FG and some mosfet, like the one on the photos.

Can you suggest which configuration to use now, in real world. I know you can use and frequency you want,
but let's leave theory for now. One more thing if you can please enlighten me, if  I start with 100w rf
output, and I neglect all the losses till radiating, what can be expected on the rx side or lets say many rx rigs.

Thanks in advance for your time answering my strange questions.
73

stivep

 Repeating some  knowledge:
1. energy can be transferred from point A to point B  using interface.
2. point A  and B can be  more than twenty two meters  apart ( 22m if Frequency is 1.8MHz)
3. interface is  the 2D space between:
a. conducting  medium and  dielectric
b. dielectric and another dielectric having different dielectric properties.
c. Earth as  lossy conducting medium and air  as dielectric forms an interface.
d. surface of water/ or salt water,  is a lossy conductive medium and  air above a is dielectric.   
d. each  interface  has its "favored" frequency rage  where it works for  us the best.

Wesley

stivep

Testing A to B energy transfer:
-it is simply  transmitting  by Tx EM wave  that enters interface with no reflection and refraction
and  is received at the distance AB by Receiver Rx.


Suggested  new places to make experiment:My  friends in science   suggested to :
1. set Tx and Rx in sport gymnastic or tennis  field/building, having flexible covering  floor
- Tx is placed from one side  of the field and Rx is on the other.
 
Most  if not all of floor carpeting there is done with :
A standard 42' x 42' gymnastics competition floor is made up of standard sections/rolls.
e.g: crosslinked polyethylene foam
Values of dielectric constant for PET fibres with electric field perpendicular to the fibre axis were 3.58 at 1 kHz and 3.36 at 10 kHz.
is here:polyethylene+dielectric+constant
from article here : determining%20dielectric%20constant,

Testing at 10kHz  is cheep  and simple  using  regular  audio amplifiers, the  Tesla coil size is a challenge.
unless you use  instead of  it you use miniature copy of it at 1/64 Y or so.

So if our interface is made  from dielectric and air as another dielectric
we can use much much higher frequencies e.g from  144MHz o- 1.8MHz

The reason of using such field:

just because is flat and allows you to  experience  my team phenomena
before  educated experimenter  attempts to receive energy from Schumann waveguide  using he same interface.
Wesley

stivep

Quote from: mrzlica on May 18, 2021, 09:08:23 AM
Hi Wesley!
I got me cories correction - cores now after a read few of your posts about the latest toys you have.
Guess you don't need a 10k to construct it so maybe I will try. But well there is always "but", right!
In you post you are mentioning different frequency's, from 6m to 160m or a bit lower if you want to use open IC rig, which is affordable now.
On other hand you suggest to go even lower for the best result.
In that case you don't need the rig but just FG and some mosfet, like the one on the photos.
Can you suggest which configuration to use now, in real world. I know you can use and frequency you want,
but let's leave theory for now. One more thing if you can please enlighten me, if  I start with 100w rf output, and
I neglect all the losses till radiating, what can be expected on the rx side or lets say many rx rigs.
Thanks in advance for your time answering my strange questions.
73
good  question  if we are talking about A to B energy transfer:
-the 6m to 160m was used by  Dr Corum.
If  you use  for testing and learning instead of standard interface  earth/air the conductive medium  -  the coated with dielectric   wire
than  you can use  much higher  f 144MHz/440MHz based on  Goubau/Sommerfied

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goubau_line
https://dailydialectics.com/sommerfeldgoubau/SommerfeldGoubau
https://dailydialectics.com/index .
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20170237497A1/en -frequencies of light

the good  of it is that it is going to take you  from 10 minutes to 1h to have  test done
some additional material:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBc4J3KN6Xo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sweXFKSXMxo&t=1s
Note :  regular EM wave doesn't   have  longitudinal properties !!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByMWD6zCQP0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMX8Lcu7X2o
https://youtu.be/wIIABIU3tRw?t=520
I will respond with more  in lunch  time. I'm in the test site  now.
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Wesley