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[rakarskiy]

I will join the definitions of the concept of Free Energy. That's my interpretation.

Free energy is "energy" that you use, not buy from a supplier.  But energy is a conditional concept, since you use the power of a device that produces the actions you need: generates heat, light or motion (rotation).  All of these devices are not perpetual motion machines, nor is the device itself that generates the power source.  These devices are all designed, calculated, they are manufactured and operated on the basis of fundamental and new technologies, have a calculated resource and the cost of operation of materials and components.  The difference is that they don't need fuel to convert or an external energy source (power) - like sunlight (luminous flux power), wind power or falling water power. Yes, it is closed devices that can generate energy to maintain the internal circulation of energy (forces) and the issuance of excess for consumer purposes, I believe the key, giving personal energy independence.   Serge Rakarskiy

Posted long ago on the page of my resource (in Russian)

[onepower]

skywatcher

That's not 'free energy' because it harvests man-made energy and someone has paid for this energy.

I'm going to comment further on this point because it sends completely the wrong message and is incorrect.

First, there is no such thing as "man-made" energy because we cannot create or destroy energy only transform it. We have to get past these ego-centric false notions that we have the capacity create energy when we do not. All energy is inherently free and at best mankind is barely intelligent enough to even transform energy with 50% efficiency.

We also have to get past this ridiculous notion that we own energy or that someone somewhere has paid for it. I mean what's next, are you going to say someone owns the Sun or Sunlight or the oceans or the air we breath?. I believe these narcissistic beliefs come from the degeneration of society which worships greed and ownership. A cult if you will in which people barely intelligent enough to understand much of anything that matters have inferred god like properties on themselves. 

If you want to know how great and god like mankind is just look at the state of the world we are in the process of destroying. Intelligent people do not destroy the place they live out of complete ignorance to the facts then claim to be intelligent. That's a special kind of stupid in my opinion.

[skywatcher]

Now some have said EM scavenging could be seen as stealing energy however this is not true. By law whomever radiates or disperses waste materials or energy into the environment no longer has any rights concerning said energy or materials. So if I build a power line nearby or an EM transmitter which radiates energy into the environment you have every right to receive and use this energy on your property. This is true because it is considered a waste product or loss to the environment and nobody owns the environment per se.

This is your interpretation but it's not the law... at least not in all countries. I know cases of people who have been punished for stealing energy because they operated fluorescent lights connected to an antenna in their garden near a powerful RF transmitter. And in fact it's stealing because absorbing RF power near a RF transmitter will reduce its range of transmitting.

[skywatcher]

I will join the definitions of the concept of Free Energy. That's my interpretation.

Free energy is "energy" that you use, not buy from a supplier.  But energy is a conditional concept, since you use the power of a device that produces the actions you need: generates heat, light or motion (rotation).  All of these devices are not perpetual motion machines, nor is the device itself that generates the power source.  These devices are all designed, calculated, they are manufactured and operated on the basis of fundamental and new technologies, have a calculated resource and the cost of operation of materials and components.  The difference is that they don't need fuel to convert or an external energy source (power) - like sunlight (luminous flux power), wind power or falling water power. Yes, it is closed devices that can generate energy to maintain the internal circulation of energy (forces) and the issuance of excess for consumer purposes, I believe the key, giving personal energy independence.   Serge Rakarskiy

Posted long ago on the page of my resource (in Russian)

Of course solar, water or wind energy is 'free' but this forum is called 'overunity' forum so i think talking about normal solar panels etc is not really the topic of this forum.

[skywatcher]

skywatcher
I'm going to comment further on this point because it sends completely the wrong message and is incorrect.

First, there is no such thing as "man-made" energy because we cannot create or destroy energy only transform it. We have to get past these ego-centric false notions that we have the capacity create energy when we do not. All energy is inherently free and at best mankind is barely intelligent enough to even transform energy with 50% efficiency.

We also have to get past this ridiculous notion that we own energy or that someone somewhere has paid for it. I mean what's next, are you going to say someone owns the Sun or Sunlight or the oceans or the air we breath?. I believe these narcissistic beliefs come from the degeneration of society which worships greed and ownership. A cult if you will in which people barely intelligent enough to understand much of anything that matters have inferred god like properties on themselves. 

If you want to know how great and god like mankind is just look at the state of the world we are in the process of destroying. Intelligent people do not destroy the place they live out of complete ignorance to the facts then claim to be intelligent. That's a special kind of stupid in my opinion.

You are right, nobody can generate energy. What we pay for is not the energy, but the conversion. This conversion requires machines which have to be built and operated, which of course costs something. When i extend your argumentation everything should be free, because everything you can buy is made from materials which originally were 'free'. Why should i pay for metal because it comes out of the earth, and therefore it's 'free'. The same applies for oil, for food, for almost everything...