Getting energy from asymmetry of the magnetic field experiment

[sm0ky2]

I don't want to make you read this whole lesson
but the first section pretty much gives a summary
of the problem.
Which is why I originally asked
"what your were trying to measure".

http://www.brynmawr.edu/physics/courses/109/lectures/SpringScales2.pdf



Measuring acceleration is done while they are moving.
Which requires a time-based perspective.


Measuring (magnetic weight?) happens when they are still.

[ayeaye]

In short, there are more lines to the left of your point
and less lines to the right (per distance/volume increment)

I'm glad that you agree.

I can see from iron filings, that there are also somewhat less field lines at the side, but that's all i see, there may be more to look.

I really tried to measure the asymmetry at the top of the pole, where are less field lines at the center. But with my iron ut, the forces were not great enough to measure.

To still measure overunity, i decided to measure it linearly with a small magnet, with the big magnet tilted 45 degrees. Which i did. The result confirmed my other experiment, where magnets were also tilted in that way. This is a different asymmetry than the one that i wanted to measure before. Yet it is about the same, the density of the field around the pole varies, and is not completely spherical. In that case, due to how the field lines go to the other pole.

[ayeaye]

Measuring (magnetic weight?) happens when they are still.

Yes by that, i measured "magnetic weights" and distances. But i also measured the force during movement, by moving through all the field. In order to measure friction.

What concerns measurement, this experiment is too difficult to do, by separately measuring the force and distance, at all a number of points. Thus the solution is to just move the scales by small increments, away from the neutral point, and stop the scales for a moment every time. Which i did. The forces and distances can then be measured from the video.

It would be desirable to measure forces when moving, from more points too. But the problem, it takes time until the spring of the scales would stretch enough to get force equal to the measured force. Thus i could only properly measure during the movement, when moving through all the field.

I'm not so great experimenter, i'm more like a theoretical thinker like you. Doing things by my own hands is not my desire. I'm sure that some others can make it much more beautiful. But i had to do the experiment, because no one had done that before.

I named the experiment asymmsurf, meaning asymmetry on the surface. Because the small magnet was on the surface of a lid of the box. But it also sounds like surfing the asymmetry of the magnetic field. Which sounds good.

[sm0ky2]

That's why I was suggesting using a constant force
Such as a counterweight of known weight (measured
on the scale in N)


And using the force from gravity on the weight to move
the magnet. We know that gravity is constant.
And we can determine the leverage of the pulley.
So the measurement will be solely the changes in
magnetic acceleration.
Not any variance in the pull of your hand.

Also you can mark the pulley, and have a 2nd time reference.
by dividing the rotation rate by the circumference.

[ayeaye]

That's why I was suggesting using a constant force
Such as a counterweight of known weight (measured
on the scale in N)

Then how do you measure, and what do you measure? And how you then calculate the energy?