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Momentum Paddle Motor

Started by Lunkster, August 17, 2020, 11:42:31 PM

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Lunkster

Thank you so much for the video's on Eric Laithwaite and the demonstrations with Gyro's.
Thank you for all of the comments,  I enjoy reading and evaluating all of them.

I have a question.  Did all things start out as speculation and then with testing and operational proof did things become a reality?
Eric Laithwaite made a valid point how Ohms Law is valid for DC but not AC.  Also how the gyro's have a new property as it spins that causes it to act differently than when it is not turning.  Are there other things that do not meet the common law that have been established over the years?
Sometimes thinking outside the box can be of value for a person.  If there is something hidden, waiting to be found, the person who looks at the obvious will not find it,  It is only the person looking outside of the box who will find it.  It is too bad that there are so many people staying only inside the box and so few willing to look outside of the box.

THe Lunkster.


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Quote from: sm0ky2 on August 23, 2020, 12:53:08 AM
Only if there is an opposing force,
Or a gimble 90-degrees to the rotational plane and to the spring


If the spring were compressed when the experiment began, and applied to say the bottom shaft
also the top shaft attached to the same housing
the entire assembly would rotate 90-degrees to the angular momentum
just as if the spring were pressing on a lever, until it fully decompressed.
but in this model the 'fulcum' is replaced by the gyro
and the fixed shaft acts as the gimble, taking its' reference in the other plane, 90-degrees to the spring.


A Gyro actually acts in all 3 dimensions
To observe this, a special type of gyro is used that has gimbles in all 3 axes


Similar to the device used to train astronauts, only that also employs an array of resistors on 2 gimbles, the controls allow you to balance them out on the horizontal plane.
I had in mind something similar to a fucault pendulum, which is a gyro by itself

Lunkster

I wanted to show how Linear momentum can be converted into angular momentum.  Now I believe as shown in the drawing that when Linear momentum is directly transferred into angular momentum that there is not an additional linear reaction of momentum acting against the linear action caused by the person in the first place.  Since energy is conserved in the transfer from linear to angular momentum, there would not be an equal linear momentum in the opposite direction of the  initial linear momentum.  This means that there should be some movement in the wagon each time the person pushes on the wheel in the wagon.  The reason the wheel in the wagon is 200 lbs is so that the person has to push harder to move the wheel creating more movement in the wagon.  If the wheel in the wagon did not move, then there would be no movement of the wagon.

The Lunkster

Lunkster

I updated the drawing here by changing the word gyro to wheel.  Spinning wheel would be more accurate.  The reason I did this is because when I use the word gyro, most people think of a free running gyro with procession.  I have fixed spinning wheels with no procession going on.  What this motor does is that it converts angular momentum into linear momentum.  The last drawing I posted was linear momentum converted into angular  momentum.  If you can convert one way, then you can convert the other way.  So that is what this motor does.

The drawing actually should be called "angular to linear momentum converter motor".

The Lunkster 

Lunkster

The Momentum from Linear to angular momentum is conserved in this machine.  Also for the example of a man pushing a wheel in a wagon.
Follow the torque in the example of the man pushing the wheel!
As the man pushes the stick against the wheel, the linear torque at the wheel is the same magnitude but but opposite direction of a man's foot pushing against the wall.  So this torque pushing on the wheel is not the same as when the stick is pushed against the other wall of the wagon.  No movement would occur.  Now the torque pushing the wheel is where linear momentum is converted into angular momentum.  Yes the momentum is conserved.  But what is happening to the torque?  The wheel begins to rotate creating angular momentum.  Now as angular momentum is being built up it has a torque built up into the system.  Now this torque is not in the direction that opposes the linear torque that the stick has.  So since the direction of angular torque is not in the direct opposition of the linear torque, the wagon should move a little.  Now the more weight in the wheel allows more linear torque to be generated into the wheel for a constant speed of push from the stick.  The wheel's weight will be a part of the total weight in the wagon. 
I am looking for someone to respond with the math for all of the torques along with the result of the movement in the wagon.

The Lunkster