e-drive platform

[Paul-R]

Good morning,
12 KW average and 24 KW peak power to 57 Kg : 1 KW peak /2,4  Kg ratio

Too fat and assuming heat problems by this case !

They are usually water cooled but I can't see any pipes. It needs to be with 90% effy; there will be 1.2 -  2.4kw coming out of it. It would melt. Very easy conversion from petrol to LX.

[lancaIV]

#10: or from petrol to 1 in-wheel or 2x in-wheel hybrid !

When the Arakelian 1 carbon part -7 hydrogen parts mix fuel means less 80% CO2,this 1 carbon part converting CO2 can become  captured to 80-90% by car filter ,

so for a 2000 Euros - e-drive + CO2 filter- investment the car owner gets an economical and ecological solution !
In urban zone up to 40/45 Km-h full electric,outer zone " low carbon emission" !

When there is an eco-ratio :
conventional ic combustion                                       30 CO2 units consume/emission

electric car   german all sources electricity               7,5 CO2 units consume/emission

electric car    solar/wind/water source electricity    1,25 CO2 units consume/emission



30 CO2 units conventional fuel to 3,75 CO2 units Arakelian Hydro-fuel less 80% CO2 exhaust capture by CO2 filter

means 0,75 CO2 units consume/emission : cleaner then pure electric cars !

Btw : I have to correct my #9 view- point : 350 Nm for 8 to 12 KW electric input is a good torque value,dependent rpm !
Here I compare with the Victor Arestov (ASiPP)  double winding modified  e- motors ( www.dujunov.com ),whose is converting and improving e-bikes and e-cars velocity and drive range  !

Another example :

Volkswagen Electric Dune Buggy : 201 hp ~ 309 Nm (228 lb-ft) electric motor



     We have to notice : 8 to 12 KW and 350 Nm QS motor 

                           versus 201 hp and 309 Nm  VW motor

How do the car maker calculate the hp/KW ratio and KW/Nm ratio ?

Even when I take the austinev.org combustion engine hp to electric motor KW ratio I would get
201 hp (VW EDB) x 12,5/136 ( austinev.org ratio )  = 18,5 KW for this 309 Nm

' 1 horse power ~ 745,7 Watt ~ 745,7 Nm/s  ' is something for the EE-"Kindergarten" ,not applicationable by different force kind variable devices !

The Tesla S P100D 967 Nm peak more with 45 KW to calculate than 450 KW ,Marketing/physics lever ratio !
And not 1 KW/0,2 Kg but 1 KW/2 Kg real world power -to-weight ratio !
45 KW ~ 450 Watth per 100 Kilometer ,very nearer the reality by 95% motor efficiency !

[Paul-R]

#10: or from petrol to 1 in-wheel or 2x in-wheel hybrid !

When the Arakelian 1 carbon part -7 hydrogen parts mix fuel means less 80% CO2,this 1 carbon part converting CO2 can become  captured to 80-90% by car filter ,

so for a 2000 Euros - e-drive + CO2 filter- investment the car owner gets an economical and ecological solution !
In urban zone up to 40/45 Km-h full electric,outer zone " low carbon emission" !

When there is an eco-ratio :
conventional ic combustion                                       30 CO2 units consume/emission

electric car   german all sources electricity               7,5 CO2 units consume/emission

electric car    solar/wind/water source electricity    1,25 CO2 units consume/emission



30 CO2 units conventional fuel to 3,75 CO2 units Arakelian Hydro-fuel less 80% CO2 exhaust capture by CO2 filter

means 0,75 CO2 units consume/emission : cleaner then pure electric cars !

Btw : I have to correct my #9 view- point : 350 Nm for 8 to 12 KW electric input is a good torque value,dependent rpm !
Here I compare with the Victor Arestov (ASiPP)  double winding modified  e- motors ( www.dujunov.com ),whose is converting and improving e-bikes and e-cars velocity and drive range  !

Another example :

Volkswagen Electric Dune Buggy : 201 hp ~ 309 Nm (228 lb-ft) electric motor



     We have to notice : 8 to 12 KW and 350 Nm QS motor 

                           versus 201 hp and 309 Nm  VW motor

How do the car maker calculate the hp/KW ratio and KW/Nm ratio ?

Even when I take the austinev.org combustion engine hp to electric motor KW ratio I would get
201 hp (VW EDB) x 12,5/136 ( austinev.org ratio )  = 18,5 KW for this 309 Nm

' 1 horse power ~ 745,7 Watt ~ 745,7 Nm/s  ' is something for the EE-"Kindergarten" ,not applicationable by different force kind variable devices !

The Tesla S P100D 967 Nm peak more with 45 KW to calculate than 450 KW ,Marketing/physics lever rtio !

I don't know whether it is just me, Lanca, but I find your
posts very difficult to follow. This is a pity because I think
there is a large amount of valuable content.

[lancaIV]

EE-"Kindergarten" car power : 50 hp ~ 50 x 745,7 W(att) = 37,3 rated KW

Autonomous Sub-/Urban shuttle bus : 50 hp ~ 50 x 12,5/136 x 10/4,5 ~ 1 rated electric KW per hour

12,5/136 : www.austinev.org formula
10/45      : George Constantinescu hypersonic theory based flywheel transmission



                                     Lorentz force versus N. Tesla time

www.scienceabc.com Watts "horsepower" by steam power comparison marketing,
                            50 horsepower or   37,3 KW max. steam power ~ 1 KWh electricity

or nearly 2 Citroen x 2CV = 2x 24 hp max engines

From US inventor Gar(field)Wood his Superelectric base car with 2x 2 hp DC electric motors and peak 52 mph velocity to the japanese" Hino flatformer" with 2x in-wheel motors to the Reva NXG Electric City Car prototype technical numbers  to the "Canoon bus" ( where is the front and where is the back side  )

www.solarjourneyusa.com traffic numbers

for the 99% US private households satisfying 100 miles range per day electric vehicle with 85 mph(Texas State highway 130) ,elsewhere 70-55 mph highway ( when free,rush hour average ≤ 24 mph) max. velocity !

In future,with "Autopilot/Tempomat",black-box-recorder, and smartphone-ID-GPS-triangulation each traffic participant gets 24/365 velocity observation : radar-society !

www.in-wheel.com peak/constant torque and peak/constant power

Remembering Roy Kessingers preview about industrial electric motor price development :
from 15 US$/hp down to 5 US$/hp: mass production price
The endconsumer pays in average with 500% margin for each unit  !
So the market price by 90 US$/hp will fall to 30 US$/hp  to finally open source  9 US$/hp( 80% margin)

The industrial parameter of production is not " hp" but for application and replication material " Kg" weight,3d digitizing,material spectrum scanning,cloning

the newest electric motors are - rpm dependent- in the 1 KW/0,1 Kg range
     Low weight = low financial investment need

9 US$/hp ~ 12 US/KW  divided  ? Kg material  worth ?
2008 I got for Kemmerich electro motors ( AC electro magnets ducted  ) price offer in the 12 €/Kg range !

                                  Sept. 2020 : 12 € ~ Kursgepflegte  14,2 US$ ( real,US credit-inflation reduced :   : 3 US$)   
     
                                                                                                   
From rare earth magnets to Metamaterial magnets to zero permanent magnets electric motors
From copper coils to copper-alu coils to alu coils to graphene film band to superconductive RT coils

Low cost materials in future !

[lancaIV]

www.evalbum.com  Lavenami
1,5 KW nominal electric motor , 40 Km/h peak velocity ~ sub-/urban speed limit and average

drive range           50        Kilometers by 12 V 70 Ah lead battery
                            200                                  12 V 280 Ah sodium or lithium battery ,same weight or volume

                            400 ?                               Valkenberg electric- 50% less consume-  drive ?
                          1200 ?                              Todorovic range extender

                          2400 ?                              Todorovic range extender and Akiro Hara generator

                          7200 ?                              Valkenberg + Todorovic + Hara with 500 Wh/Kg battery


                               41                               is the result from 15.000 Kilometers per year divided 365,25 days

                               71                                                               15.000                                                   210 workdays
                       
Or : 1,5 KW electric motor and Saburo battery-genset : over 10.000 kilometers drive range


Is this important,the investment worth ? Actually not in need !