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All Permanent Magnet Motor

Started by magnetman12003, March 28, 2020, 03:43:49 PM

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magnetman12003

Here is a video of the motor turning folks.
Shown a little out of focus to hide important parts.
More to come later on  in focus.

norman6538

Without more information the most hopeful thing to me is Floor's TD (twist drive) found at TD replication and magnets and measurements. I have made 12 of these in different ways and they all measure overunity in the range of 300% up. His concept is - as two magnets at 90 degrees approach each other easily without any resistance they want to twist and by limiting their movement you can harvest that twist and compare it with the push together and pull apart (there is a little attraction when they twist) work.

Norman

ayeaye

Quote from: norman6538 on April 01, 2020, 12:29:12 PM
His concept is - as two magnets at 90 degrees approach each other easily without any resistance they want to twist and by limiting their movement you can harvest that twist and compare it with the push together and pull apart (there is a little attraction when they twist) work

As i said, for overunity there have to be two paths with different energy, to the state of minimal energy potential, from outside of the fields. That is, we can like enter by the path with more energy, and leave by the path with less energy.

That magnets twist when approaching, by itself means no overunity. No matter how they approach. This is not different than moving two attracting magnets close to each other. Because this is in essence the same, the magnets twist because their poles attract. We sure get energy, but there is no continuous overunity. Doing such experiments is doing things with magnets, but it proves absolutely nothing. Unless one can show in a similar setup that the energy in different paths is different, but this somewhat differs, it is not the design of that experiment.

But this is not about the topic. Well, in a way it is. Cannot people here write their name in the title, so that all know that it is about their work, like their permanent magnet motor, and not any other, and not about how to make a permanent magnet motor in general, or such. Like "[magnetman12003] All permanent magnet motor". Because "All permanent magnet motor" is very general. Yes Magnetman12003 created the thread, but this doesn't make it clear that the thread is about his design.


norman6538

The previous poster has not made nor tested the idea in the Floor machine. I made 12 machines and they all have overunity. If a small force can release a larger force then overunity exists because work in is less than work out.

Its so easy to work the keyboard but not so the hacksaw, drill, plane, vise, hot glue gun after you get it into your head to make and test the Floor twist concept. Usually when I get and idea into my head it takes a day to 2 to make and test it.

Its all about the correct embodiment and measurements.  I expect to have a capable self runner soon by manually moving the two weights lifted to
1. closing the magnets making the twist and lifting 2 weights and
2. opening the magnets to repeat step 1 above.

No it will not be a rotating motor.

That will demonstrate the concept but will not include the precision switching clockwork which will take months. I prefer to use marbles that just keep lifting and rolling because they are so undeniably  visible.

There is great hope for green permanent magnet power. Get testing and see for yourself.

Norman

Airstriker

Quote from: magnetman12003 on March 31, 2020, 04:05:26 PM
Here is a video of the motor turning folks.
Shown a little out of focus to hide important parts.
More to come later on  in focus.


Big ring magnet at the bottom. 4 flat magnets placed in opposition at 45 degrees to the big ring magnet. Those 4 magnets placed on a ring plate, which is mounted freely on a rod, serving just as a guideline. The plate can move freely up and down. The gravity doing the rest.
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