floor sweepings dust bin

[captainpecan]

I apologize. I am trying to understand how to remove posts. Do I copy the post and place them in here and you automatically go delete them? Last couple posts in my magnet assisted thread is very full of links and search links and all wrong language. Hides all the content. Any more explanation as to what I am supposed to do to properly remove is appreciated.

[Floor]

This process is new and not at all well tested.

1. Open two copies of your browser.
2. Login to O.U.
3. in your topic   there     quote the entire post you wish to remove.
4. highlight it and then cut it (controll x).
5 switch to the other browser and navigate   here  to the dust bin.
6. click on    reply    below the latest post in the dust bin.
7 paste the quote (controll v).


Good ordering in regard to which is attached to what does not matter here.

The whole affair is a courtesy any way / for the record kind of thing
and its is all your own call.

8. Post in your topic.  Floor please delete messages x, y. z...
                         example this very message is
https://overunity.com/19040/permanent-magnet-assisted-motor-coil-designs/msg564838/#msg564838
              and
Floor please delete messaage
https://overunity.com/19040/permanent-magnet-assisted-motor-coil-designs/msg564838/#msg564838

                                        Moving Attached files

1. Go to O.U.. com  / login
2. Start a reply in the "Floors dust bin"
3. Open a second browser and goto O.U..com  (you are already loged in)
4 Navigate to the Jpg. or png. or so on... that you want to copy, right click on
that file and select copy.
5.Switch to the other browser that is looking in the "Floors dust bin"
6. Below attach: click browse
7. Right click then select paste.
8. Change the name of the file you just pasted, else it has only a file type or extension.
                                  So ...  Right click on it then select rename.
9. left click on the renamed file to highlight it.
10. Left click on "open"

11. Post in your topic,  "Floor please delete messages x, y. z..."

             Again, the whole affair of moving a post, is a courtesy any way / for the record
             kind of thing and its is all your own call. 

[Willy]

I see.
From this perspective, the "apparent weight", which is your net downward gravitational force:
Is different, between the two cases.


With water, the negative force (being that against the downward) is a factor of the displacement,
and if the water in the reservoir is allowed to move upwards, a direct energy correlation can be made, as per Archimedes.
(consider a case where the vessel is completely full, and sealed, the magnet simply falls:
    in this case the column that is being displaced is only ever the height of the magnet, iterated across the number of magnet heights within the column, rather than across the entire surface area. Here the pressure remains constant, instead of varying with gravity then rebalancing to the ambient. It presents a distinctly different scenario when measuring the work done by gravity. Just to add to your arsenal of experimental data)


In the electric case: velocity plays a major role in the generation of negative force. (against gravity)
Consider first the linear case of sliding the magnet laterally through a horizontal tube. This can be done directly using force scales.
Note how changes in transitional velocity affect the opposing force.
Then consider how the applied force changes during this experiment.
Next: repeat the experiment using a constant force, say a 90-degree angle to a string with weight to do the 'pulling', and compare to an "artificial gravitational" force equivalent from an applied mechanism.


Note that this removes the direct reference to "apparent weight"
This is to clarify the observation, by performing the experiment within the horizontal plane.
The same "tube" and magnet should be used across all experiments, to alleviate Lorentz variance.


Now we go back to our comparative analysis: Lorentz vs Water
In the case of water (negating water resistance, which IS significant)
The counter force is derived from the same time dependent gravitational acceleration.
Imparting additional downward force to increase acceleration does not change the counter force caused by displacement.


In the electric case, it indeed does.
Now consider the s^2 in the denominator
The magnet is increasing in velocity, the longer it hangs in the tube.
This increases the counter force, further delaying the fall.
However the positive force is constant.
I assume this is the case you "measured" when deciding that the "apparent weight" remained constant during the experiment (?)


This means that the two scenarios are not equivalent, thus comparing them against one another, there is variance.


As per wether or not either of the (dilated) gravitational forces are 'strong enough' to reset your twist drive mechanism, this is a matter of your particular set-up.
Certainly there is a mass of magnet, which would do so even in water.
Though this would change the entirety of the experimental data.
And all tests would be redone using the greater mass.


After observing the Lorentz force (in the opposite vector of the magnets motion), now consider a case where the tube itself is on a scaled platform (secured rigidly and with enough copper mass to cause complete repulsion from physical contact).
You can time the free fall, then time the tube fall
Integrate over time and we see the Lorentz force is precisely the missing gravitational force.
When we add the Lorentz to the (dilated) gravitational: we get total gravity. (~9.


We can also do the inverse, by mounting the magnet on a post on the scaled platform, and allow the tube to fall around it. We get the same results.

[Willy]

(it is unfortunate that physics gets censored)


I will again give clarification, if anyone wants to actually read my posts that get censored, pull up the thread on the cached backpages of the date of my posts.




To calculate the "twisted" combined fields:


https://study.com/skill/learn/using-the-principle-of-superposition-magnetic-field-expressions-derived-from-amperes-law-to-find-a-total-magnetic-field-from-2-or-more-current-carrying-conductors-explanation.html




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Clarification on use of ceramic magnets:




Ceramics and cobalts have larger, less dense fields, as do iron magnets
Rare earth and metas have tightly compact fields which are stronger and more dense.
The effect can be observed using any type of magnets. Higher the density, the greater the force across a shorter distance. You can observe the differences directly by selecting magnets of various types of the same strength rating.


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Proof of concept independently replicated:


https://youtu.be/bmCQVg9qRmQ


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clarification of the magnetic interactions:


at parallel alignment:
field interactions approach a maximum


At 90-degrees along an axis perpendicular to the axis of magnetization:
field interactions approach 1/2




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Engineering:


an ideal twist drive (with no system losses) would provide +50% mechanical leverage
A real world device would provide something less


Any number of machines can be designed using this principle


"switchable magnets" use this to ease the work done by the consumer


earliest known use was in the 1800's, old timers would use this to pull strong magnets apart


If you find yourself unable to follow the precise replication instructions provided previously,
I will be happy to help you design your twist drive prototypes to fit any mechanisms you have.

[Willy]

Smoky

Before I MOVE your post.

This is and was a courtesy by the way.
Notice I said move and not REMOVE.

I will, as before, let it stand, until / unless it is in the way of  the continuity of the topic here.

Just as I did with one of your previous posts.

I REMOVED ALL of Ramset's post's.

I distilled and combined his posts with other input and placed it into here
@
https://overunity.com/19468/twist-drive-builds/msg577580/#msg577580

Thanked him, sincerely and posted in this (that) topic, a notice of the new location of that
distillation / compilation composition as such. 

I removed CITFTA's post entirely.  Same event as above, except CITFTA's content
remained verbatim as does your own post.

Your's is here @
https://overunity.com/18497/floor-sweepings-dust-bin/msg577574/#msg577574

I spent considerable time doing these things.  Did you ?  No.

Did your read this topic and understand its direction ?  Apparently not.

Shall we now direct this topic toward Gotoluc's "Proof of concept independently replicated"
Like it or not we shall not.

I do not consider Gotoluke's  build to be a proof of concept for this topic
and I will not discuss it here.

Run a series of topics of your own for a solid year or ten and find out just how difficult
it is to keep continuity.  You haven't any idea, but then that's your own affair.

Read this.
https://overunity.com/18497/floor-sweepings-dust-bin/msg577574/#msg577574
and this
https://overunity.com/18496/un-hassled-exploration/msg545850/#msg545850