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Overunity Machines Forum



Real looking magnet motor with good explanations.

Started by DaKrampus, June 21, 2020, 02:12:43 AM

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Floor

                   First video.
I at first thought that the first video might be based upon a balancing of attraction and repulsion forces.

After studying the video and presenters comments more, I conclude that this is not particularly
the case here.

He uses a weak magnet, (he states).

I think it is a common mistake among magnet experimenters to think that bigger
will work better. 

There are a couple of good reasons why using strong magnets in all position, may not be the best way to proceed.  (no details on this from me here).

In a trial and error / siege kind of approach, toward getting magnets to continuously rotate (inventor imply s that this was how he did it), one might eventually realize the need to use weak magnet interactions.

Most fakes I have seen, go for the more impressive / bigger is better approach.

It would be uncommon for a "faker" to go for a lesser and less impressive magnet interaction, though not unheard of .

Any but the most inexperienced of internet users will realize,that,
               the internet is packed with fake free energy devices. 

                                    So much so that ....
it hardly needs mentioning but, ....   odds are very high .... that both of these devices are bogus.

However, it is an entirely different position to take a stance which is simply the autopilot, proceeding into ridicule and defamation / accusation of all the presenters of magnet motors.                                           
                              That would not be / is not open minded inquiry.

                   Second video

While I myself probably would not consider doing a build as in the first video, I would consider  doing a build of the V gate variation shown in the second video. 

Even though I have seen a gazillion....  not working  and / or fakes of the V gate design.  That video shows a variation,  in which I find good enough reason to explore further.

Note...  I don't see any advantage to using neos rather than ceramics in the V gate variation design.

     peace out
             floor

Floor

The second video (V gate) does not use force balancing in the way I initially thought it might.
                                because
The motion of the second magnet (external to the wheel) at the bottom of the device, is not connected to the motion of the top magnet  (external to the wheel).

                @  https://youtu.be/2Jizeb9mK08

The bottom magnet engages the V configuration (from within the V). 

This inclines me to believe that both, the left and the right sides of the V configuration are presenting a same and single magnetic polarity.  i.e.  all magnet faces (both sides of the V) have the same magnetic pole facing up.

This would then necessitate that the top (bar / external) magnet is actually two magnets, and that both ends are of the top bar have the same magnetic polarity.  Its poles / fields engage the V configured magnets primarily from the out side of the V.

I think that I may have seen this video / configuration before.  Without some kind of magnetic force neutralization, I conclude that the device #2, should get stuck in the classic sticky spot.

       floor


Floor

A freeze frame of the over balanced wheel, will reveal that it is never over balanced, but is instead always balanced.

best wishes
  keep researching, Keep learning !
        floor

ayeaye

Overbalanced wheel is overbalanced, and as such it seems that it should work. But people forget some principles of mechanics. When these weights fall, their rotation causes the big wheel to rotate in the opposite direction, which means slowing it down.

Asking whether it's overunity or not, it was a joke, sorry if no one understood.


marcosbk

hi ,sorry for disturbing in here, my separate post is waiting on approval since Friday,here is the msg

is known the procedure to create electrical power by moving a coil through magnetic field or a magnetic field through coil, as dc generators or alternators.
all known or better said used procedures requires a mechanical work from which we calculate system efficiency.
what if we provide a moving magnetic field without using mechanical work?
will there be something that will not suffice?
to me, the theory looks fine,according to present electricity laws.
pleased to hear .
rgds to all