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Pandemic - Run the virus through the community during the summer, instead of

Started by unsure, July 30, 2020, 03:23:57 PM

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conradelektro

Quote from: onepower on May 29, 2021, 02:08:59 AM

My point is that it was always on us as individuals to make responsible choices not the government or the community.

The responsible choice might be clear or known to an individual, but the individual might no be able to make that choice.
Imagine you are 60 years old and you do not want to go to work as a waiter in a restaurant, because you do not want to get Covid. That would be the case in any work situation where you have to be in close contact with other people.
Only people with savings or an income from investments have the choice to stay home. Therefore, most of the people need the government to make rules that protect them from infection, like "work from home" or "protective equipment at the workplace" or "closing restaurants, cinemas and so on, with compensation for the work force".
So, being responsible for yourself is nice, but are you in the position to be responsible?
In Austria the government did many things wrong, but overall the measures were not so bad, only 10.000 from 9 Million were lost to Covid. In many countries the government did much worse, like in the US and in Great Britain.
People who like to talk about personal freedom and personal choice do not like to talk about "who does really have freedom and a choice".
It is easy to want freedom and personal choice, but for most people there practically is no freedom and choice because of their financial situation.
Freedom and personal choice are theoretical concepts not applicable to real life situations. In real life you need a government stepping in, or people die a lot. You personally may accept heavy loss of live in the name of freedom or personal choice, I do not.

Greetings, Conrad

onepower

Conrad
QuoteIt is easy to want freedom and personal choice, but for most people there practically is no freedom and choice because of their financial situation.
Freedom and personal choice are theoretical concepts not applicable to real life situations. In real life you need a government stepping in, or people die a lot. You personally may accept heavy loss of live in the name of freedom or personal choice, I do not.

Not long ago many considered Covid a hoax because the government at the time lied to them, some still believe it today.

"I have noticed that even those who assert that everything is predestined and that we can change nothing about it still look both ways before they cross the street."
― Stephen Hawking

Like Hawking's quote, I noticed many who were complaining the loudest calling Covid a hoax also wore a mask and got vaccinated. So as Hawking points out the truth is determined by proof and action not false rhetoric. If people actually believed Covid was a hoax then why did they take precautions and get vaccinated?. No offense but we cannot trust anyone who continually says one thing but does the opposite.

If nothing else Covid taught us that governments cannot be trusted because they are controlled by people who cannot be trusted.

Regards
AC

lancaIV

In the hungarian parliament was(is ?) an ultra-nationalist, anti-jewish his "ideo-!?-logical view !


He did not know it,but found later that he has "jewish" ancestors !


He accepts it,but stays political anti-jewish !(was his statement anno 20??)


Anti-NaZi : Anti-National-Socialism  or Anti-Na(tional)-Zi(onism) ::)


Everywhere we find pro-/contra positions,by CORONA we have a problem : invisible/non detectable illness ! (and clearly = superspreader)


Not knowing to be ill but other infecting : legal position !? Complicated ! For pro-/contra judges ! 8) 


Written law and order or ideologic view : decision base ? Over all instances ?




Sincere


OCWL




onepower

The Corona virus is very easy to understand...it's a virus.

The only thing new about it is the fact most have never seen a virus like this in there lifetime. However life is short and this probably won't be the last virus we see with the way were going. Most mass producers, factory farms, large mixed markets and other large industries are a cesspool designed to breed new viruses.

As many people in more civilized countries claim, they wouldn't feed mass produced American or Chinese food to there dog because that would cruel. I got food poisoning from McDonalds twice before I swore I would never eat that rotten swill again.

Regards
AC

lancaIV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yclewsDdjwY


btw.: I jobbed in the 80´ for McDonalds,Munich/BY/GER, front-/back service


but also : Zyma(Ciba-Geigy before name change,+ Sandoz =Novartis),Pharmacy