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Gyro Gravity Motor

Started by Lunkster, August 30, 2020, 01:21:57 PM

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Lunkster

I have not seen a valid Gravity Motor work without interacting with outside forces, even though there are many claims that they do.
I have seen models  of combining magnets and gravity in the designs. I have not seen verified working.  It looks like a lot of scams to me.

After watching the video's on gyro's of how they had either moved the center of gravity in the assembly or maybe actually became lighter.  Either way, could several gyro's be placed on a gravity wheel and rearranged on the wheel between the left side of the wheel and the right side of the wheel in order to cause continuous rotation of the wheel.  Could the turning of the wheel run a generator that would power the gyro's.  Would there be any power left over creating a COP>1.

Many of you have seen many more designs than what I have seen.  I would like to see if people have knowledge of anyone who has done or is doing work in this area?
I would like to see what people have using gyro's

The file is my non-working Gravity motor,  Some people like to have a good laugh.  Call it "The Laugh of the Day".

The Lunkster

AllanV

Quote from: Lunkster on August 30, 2020, 01:21:57 PM
I have not seen a valid Gravity Motor work without interacting with outside forces, even though there are many claims that they do.
I have seen models  of combining magnets and gravity in the designs. I have not seen verified working.  It looks like a lot of scams to me.

After watching the video's on gyro's of how they had either moved the center of gravity in the assembly or maybe actually became lighter.  Either way, could several gyro's be placed on a gravity wheel and rearranged on the wheel between the left side of the wheel and the right side of the wheel in order to cause continuous rotation of the wheel.  Could the turning of the wheel run a generator that would power the gyro's.  Would there be any power left over creating a COP>1.

Many of you have seen many more designs than what I have seen.  I would like to see if people have knowledge of anyone who has done or is doing work in this area?
I would like to see what people have using gyro's

The file is my non-working Gravity motor,  Some people like to have a good laugh.  Call it "The Laugh of the Day".

The Lunkster

Hi,

I am working on such an experiment now.

I do not mind telling it.

While doing the dishes in the sink one time many years ago the dish mop was used to lift a plate up out of the water onto the surface by using a stirring action. It is quiet effective. The plate wobbles its way to the surface.
The stirring is lowering the pressure on the top of the plate as it is displaced as well.
It does not take much pressure differential from top to bottom to get a large force.

Using the plate as an example and replaced by a gyroscope, the action of the movement by the dish mop applied mechanically, lift should occur.

A gyroscope if it is wobbled while it is twisted will give lift on the opposite side from the twisting moment. The gyro is twisted through the center of the mass on one side while the other is lower. The twist will bring the other lower side up.
It requires balance and careful construction.  The lift would come from the center of mass on the lower side.
Two actions are required the wobble and the twist and they may have to go counter to each other. The lift will have two strong pulses per revolution.
The idea is to develop the movement that then could be applied and induced electrically into a mass to act on every atom.

All the best,

Allan

Lunkster

Quote from: AllanV on August 31, 2020, 06:49:00 PM
Hi,

I am working on such an experiment now.

I do not mind telling it.

While doing the dishes in the sink one time many years ago the dish mop was used to lift a plate up out of the water onto the surface by using a stirring action. It is quiet effective. The plate wobbles its way to the surface.
The stirring is lowering the pressure on the top of the plate as it is displaced as well.
It does not take much pressure differential from top to bottom to get a large force.

Using the plate as an example and replaced by a gyroscope, the action of the movement by the dish mop applied mechanically, lift should occur.

A gyroscope if it is wobbled while it is twisted will give lift on the opposite side from the twisting moment. The gyro is twisted through the center of the mass on one side while the other is lower. The twist will bring the other lower side up.
It requires balance and careful construction.  The lift would come from the center of mass on the lower side.
Two actions are required the wobble and the twist and they may have to go counter to each other. The lift will have two strong pulses per revolution.
The idea is to develop the movement that then could be applied and induced electrically into a mass to act on every atom.

All the best,

Allan

Very Interesting.
Would you have a sketch or drawing that you would be able to share.
I am better at understanding things from drawings or sketches.

Thank you so much for responding,  I am glad that you are looking into this area.  I lived in an RV for 18 months not to long ago  and for some of us, there are times when it is hard for us to build a prototype. 

I wish you the best in your research!

The Lunkster

AllanV

Quote from: Lunkster on August 31, 2020, 09:39:26 PM
Very Interesting.
Would you have a sketch or drawing that you would be able to share.
I am better at understanding things from drawings or sketches.

Thank you so much for responding,  I am glad that you are looking into this area.  I lived in an RV for 18 months not to long ago  and for some of us, there are times when it is hard for us to build a prototype. 

I wish you the best in your research!

The Lunkster

Hi, wanted to reply sooner but had a look in my workshop and found something that may interest you.

It is a gyro set up. I intend to build 6 of them and put them into a light weight air craft.

A description; when a bullet is fired on a horizontal plane at a plate of steel that is angled to send the bullet down, the plate will want to move back and lift.
If the plate is move forward toward the bullet then there will be some lift only as the trajectory changes.
When a gyro is spinning it is similar. What has been set up is a gyro that is free to move down as a force is pushed toward it and as the upward force is taken off it. It needs a little bit more work. So far it works but how much, it needs a little more checking.

About 5% of the force from the flywheel would still be a usable amount.
The other thing is it could push a vehicle but a big flywheel with the proper mounting is needed to push at least 100kg.

There was a stop to this project because there is another way to do this and I am only half way.

It will take me a few days because there is not so much thinking it has already mostly been done.

I will try to get back with another post sooner than later.

All the best,

Allan

conradelektro

Gyroscopes are solved but difficult to understand, therefore the many speculations:
https://www.real-world-physics-problems.com/gyroscope-physics.html#:~:text=These%20forces%20act%20in%20opposite%20directions.&text=In%20other%20words%2C%20due%20to,explanation%20behind%20the%20gyroscope%20physics

The dynamics of macroscopic things are solved, there are no more riddles. If you want to come up with something that moves an object in space without throwing much mass away, you have to look at the particle level. But this is impossible at home.

Instead of a chemical reaction in a rocket (which throws away atoms at a relative slow speed) you want to eject particles at the speed of light. You will still throw mass away, but at an incredible speed, therefore you only have to throw away little mass.

The "lifter idea" ( e.g. https://news.mit.edu/2018/first-ionic-wind-plane-no-moving-parts-1121 ) uses Ions in the air, which will not work in space. And a "lifter" also throws atoms (Ions) at a relative low speed.

Ion thrusters https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_thruster also throw away atoms and molecules at a relatively low speed.

First study the known physics of gyroscopes and then start dreaming. You will wake up immediately.

Greetings, Conrad