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Free Energy RANT CAFFE ASYLUM

Started by v8karlo, October 02, 2020, 03:11:51 PM

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NickZ

   Well AC, I would tend to agree with your evaluations.Which would lead one to believe that it's just another device readings error.Yet, if any of Joel's devices ran for longer than expected, that would be another thing. Perhaps just using ONE capacitor, would make things easier to analyze to see whats up. As just higher efficiency, is not too exiting.
   
   NickZ   

AlienGrey

Quote from: onepower on May 10, 2023, 01:41:58 PM
NickZ
Joel states...
To those skilled in the art I think it's a different story. I see capacitors, an oscillator system using electronics, a fan running, a transformer and a diode. Now let's say were only losing 5% per element(times five) which is very efficient. This means 25% loss per cycle at X cycles/sec of the feedback transformer.

Better yet, try to transfer any energy from one cap to another. Without an inductor between the caps we lose 50% of the energy right off the top. Add an inductor which then requires a diode and were easily into a 10% loss per cycle of said inductor. For example, I was doing experiments on the two cap paradox using two 10 Farad caps, a ferrite inductor pulsed at the optimum time period, low loss signal diodes and still measured 0.02v loss per single impulse.

So how do you suppose Joel's setup doesn't even register a change in the voltage on the caps in 15 minutes?. I suspect most people don't understand electrodynamics well enough to determine what they think there seeing.

AC
who's facts are you quoting, It's easy to decieve you with distorted facts, when the experiment is telling you the truth.
Try drawing out the experiment to see what's happening!

NickZ

   AG:   
   Well again, I don't know what you're talking about.  You posted that "Joel states"... But,  AC made that comment, not me. So...   And I do agree with AC, until YOU can prove differently.   Of course, you will never do that... nor replicate anything at all, now will you...   And Joel will not tell us just how long his set up runs for. As it's not really free energy, as far as I'm concerned. And he already knows it, but says that it runs for hours. I doubt it.
  When will we ever get the truth??? Joel has been  playing around with these and other devices for months, and no self runner in sight.     
What would happen if Joel didn't precharge those caps??? And runs a real load, instead?    How many videos are out there of devices that selfrun? Do any of them really self run? Like to run your house?  Which one do you want to believe in, that have been proven to work? Not one of them, right?   We need more than just more trick videos...and more guys like you AG, to replicate them and show us how well they really work. As you believe what you see, but in this case, I agree with AC. In any case, time will tell... 
    NickZ

AlienGrey

Quote from: NickZ on May 11, 2023, 08:35:14 AM
   AG:   
   Well again, I don't know what you're talking about.  You posted that "Joel states"... But,  AC made that comment, not me. So...   And I do agree with AC, until YOU can prove differently.   Of course, you will never do that... nor replicate anything at all, now will you...   And Joel will not tell us just how long his set up runs for. As it's not really free energy, as far as I'm concerned. And he already knows it, but says that it runs for hours. I doubt it.
  When will we ever get the truth??? Joel has been  playing around with these and other devices for months, and no self runner in sight.     
What would happen if Joel didn't precharge those caps??? And runs a real load, instead?    How many videos are out there of devices that selfrun? Do any of them really self run? Like to run your house?  Which one do you want to believe in, that have been proven to work? Not one of them, right?   We need more than just more trick videos...and more guys like you AG, to replicate them and show us how well they really work. As you believe what you see, but in this case, I agree with AC. In any case, time will tell... 
    NickZ

Oh dear Did i mix AC and your self up ''oops''.  8)
Re the video comments you are only saying that because you don't under stand how things work.
for instance are you aware you can buy ferrite rings that are actually bistable magnets ?
also you need to loosen up the electrons in order to free them and what if that type or
device works like a black hole dragging in partials from close proximity ?
and your ignoring Fleming's rules, now put it all in perspective and you might get some where.

Sil



onepower

NickZ
QuoteWell AC, I would tend to agree with your evaluations.Which would lead one to believe that it's just another device readings error.Yet, if any of Joel's devices ran for longer than expected, that would be another thing. Perhaps just using ONE capacitor, would make things easier to analyze to see whats up. As just higher efficiency, is not too exiting.

We could ask a question, could we tell the difference between...
1)A super efficient circuit which operates a load for an extended period of time.
2)An average efficiency circuit which uses an internal gain to overcome most of the known losses to operate a load for an extended period of time.

From experience I found 99% of people wouldn't understand the difference because they look identical. So one device operates at 95% efficiency and the other at 50% efficiency with a 45% gain, what's the difference?. In my opinion there is no difference because the 45% gain qualifies as an increase in efficiency. No mystery, no hocus pocus is required and all we were really looking for is better ways of doing things to increase efficiency in my opinion.

In my opinion FE devices are no different than a solar cell 200 years ago. It was impossible and nobody had any idea how sunlight could be directly transformed into electricity. It was beyond there knowledge and understanding at the time yet here we are.

AC