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Free Energy RANT CAFFE ASYLUM

Started by v8karlo, October 02, 2020, 03:11:51 PM

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onepower

smoky2
QuoteThe truth is, we don't know anything about anything.
All we can do is describe the small part of a thing that we can experience.
This is never all of the thing
Nor is our description ever a substantial answer to what the thing actually is.
100% of math and science is arbitrary

The "we" part is a delusion at best because we do not all have the same knowledge base, experience and understanding.

For example, right now there could be a scientist doing some repair work on a working zero point energy/anti-gravity craft. That person has probably forgotten more than we will ever know. Would you tell them they "don't know anything about anything?". I would hardly consider the fact they could travel around the planet in minutes while your stuck in traffic arbitrary.

Thus science and understanding has always enabled some people to do extraordinary things which most others cannot. The people you want to watch out for are the ones who believe they understand something but cannot prove it. Which is just common sense isn't it... if what they claim is true then they should be able prove it.

QuoteScience (from Latin scientia 'knowledge') is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the world.

It's not that difficult to understand and it's the "testable explanations" or proof most have an issue with. Science is all about proving whether something is true or not... we all want to know the truth don't we?.

Regards
AC







Floor

@ smoky2
        Right on..
... ... ... ... ... ...
@ onepower

Why are electrons attracted to protons ?
                answer...
Because they have opposite charges.
... ... ... ... ... ...
What does this statement mean "Protons and electrons have opposite charges" ?
                answer...
It means they are attracted to each other.

    Is this understanding ?
                answer...
No.  It is arbitrary or simply by agreement.

onepower

floor
QuoteWhat does this statement mean "Protons and electrons have opposite charges" ?
                answer...
It means they are attracted to each other.

This is only partly correct in my opinion.

By "charge" we mean an electric field on the surface of the particle. The proton has a (+) electric field and the electron a (-) electric field. Since opposite electric fields attract so must the particles because the electric field is attached to the particle.

As well in the science literature some experiments replicated the "electric field effect". If two bodies oscillate at the same frequency in a tub of water they attract and if they oscillate 180 degrees out of phase they repel. Thus there is some evidence to suggest that an electric field is due to an oscillating particle disturbing the space (EM waves/radiation) around it. If one particle oscillates at a different rate than another this constitutes a phase shift just like two oscillating objects in water producing attraction/repulsion.   

So the universe is kind of like a sea of energy in a perfect vacuum in which all particle/bodies float.

Isn't science cool?, by using analogies and doing experiments we can begin to understand what stuff is and how it actually works.

Regards
AC





Floor

Quote from: onepower on December 03, 2021, 01:55:42 AM
By "charge" we mean an electric field on the surface of the particle. The proton has a (+) electric field and the electron a (-) electric field. 

The ARBITRARY decision to name the (+) and (-) of charges occured long before there
were any field      theories    which "explain"  them.

Quote from: onepower on December 03, 2021, 01:55:42 AM
Since opposite electric fields attract so must the particles because the electric field is attached to the particle.

Since opposite electric fields attracting is the arbitrary definition of opposite fields.

Quote from: onepower on December 03, 2021, 01:55:42 AM
As well in the science literature some experiments replicated the "electric field effect". If two bodies oscillate at the same frequency in a tub of water they attract and if they oscillate 180 degrees out of phase they repel. Thus there is some evidence to suggest that an electric field is due to an oscillating particle disturbing the space (EM waves/radiation) around it. If one particle oscillates at a different rate than another this constitutes a phase shift just like two oscillating objects in water producing attraction/repulsion. 

Is it not that ..

If two bodies oscillate at the same frequency in a tub of water (IN PHASE ?) they attract
                   and if
they oscillate (AT THE SAME FREQUENCY ?) 180 degrees out of phase they repel ?

Quote from: onepower on December 03, 2021, 01:55:42 AM
So the universe is kind of like a sea of energy in a perfect vacuum in which all particle/bodies float.

Yea...  the world is    kind of     like an apple whirling silently in space.
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Yea...  the world is    kind of     like an apple whirling silently in space ?

Round, like a circle in a spiral
Like a wheel within a wheel
Never ending or beginning
On an ever spinning reel

Like a snowball down a mountain
Or a carnival balloon
Like a carousel that's turning
Running rings around the moon

Like a clock whose hands are sweeping
Past the minutes on it's face
And the world is like an apple
Whirling silently in space

Like the circles that you find
In the windmills of your mind

Like a tunnel that you follow
To a tunnel of it's own
Down a hollow to a cavern
Where the sun has never shone

Like a door that keeps revolving
In a half forgotten dream
Or the ripples from a pebble
Someone tosses in a stream

Like a clock whose hands are sweeping
Past the minutes on it's face
And the world is like an apple
Whirling silently in space

Like the circles that you find
In the windmills of your mind

Keys that jingle in your pocket
Words that jangle in your head
Why did summer go so quickly
Was it something that you said?

Lovers walking along the shore
Leave their footprints in the sand
Was the sound of distant drumming
Just the fingers of your hand?

Pictures hanging in a hallway
And a fragment of this song
Half remembered names and faces
But to whom do they belong?

When you knew that it was over
Were you suddenly aware
That the autumn leaves were turning
To the color of her hair

Like a circle in a spiral
Like a wheel within a wheel
Never ending or beginning
On an ever spinning reel

As the images unwind
Like the circles that you find
In the windmills of your mind

Pictures hanging in a hallway
And the fragment of this song
Half remembered names and faces
But to whom do they belong

When you knew that it was over
Were you suddenly aware
That the autumn leaves were turning
To the color of her hair

Like a circle in a spiral
Like a wheel within a wheel
Never ending or beginning
On an ever spinning reel

As the images unwind
Like the circles that you find
In the windmills of your mind

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=wind+mills+of+your+mind&t=ffab&iar=videos&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DY8i9-LmUlkE

and science IS cool !

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Best wishes
     floor