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AC voltage from single magnetic pole

Started by nix85, October 04, 2020, 10:16:36 PM

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Quote from: nix85 on October 04, 2020, 10:16:36 PM
This is strange and possibly the reason i got so little voltage from my all N rotor magnets and aircore toroid stator.

We all know when magnet approaches a normal coil you get voltage in one direction, 0 in the middle and opposite voltage as it crosses the other side of the coil.

All sweet. But look at this. I suggest you watch the whole vid but first 4 and half min are more important.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmENeg5YSCw

When he sweeped that coil exposing just one side to field, he got AC voltage, first small negative voltage from side N flux, then higher positive voltage as coil passed the center of the magnet and then suprisingly JUST AS HIGH or even higher negative voltage as coil crosses from strong central S flux to weak side N flux...

If you look at 3:23 he does it again, it really produces equal voltage in both directions using just one side of the coil and sweep in just one direction. Slow it down to 0.25x and you will see clearly a full AC spike from one sweep to the left.

But when he crosses the magnet across the coil horizontally using both sides of the coil, in usual manner, the second spike is lower.

What troubles me is does this mean we cannot use only N poles to induce DC voltage over aircore toroid?

Has anyone tried this? If not, i'd appreciate if you do, i tore my toroid apart so can't do it at the moment.

It is crucial that we know this. Does single pole really produce equal voltage in both directions due to sudden change of flux from dense central flux to much weaker opposite side flux.

When i gave it bit more thought it can't be any other way, significant change of flux must produce voltage, it's just that induction is usually not done this way so we tend to forget that just cause you are using one pole does not mean you will get DC.

Hi nix85,

Sometime ago a Bedinni type mono pole motor was built and it has a very small output. There are three windings with one as a feedback to switch the transistor.

To increase the output requires a little effort as is usual.
Thinking it through it was decided to double wind the stator pole and use a separate two winding inductor to send a reverse pulse through one winding. The currents were switched through the stator and then the inductor in a complete circuit.

A transformer action can change the magnetic field instantly and when a turns ratio is used it can cause more current to flow in one winding in the reverse direction.
This makes more amp turns in one direction only which changes the polarity.

In general terms a pulse is applied to draw the magnet toward the pole. The timed pulse is turned on and then off at the right moment.
Eddie currents are developed as the magnet crosses the pole causing drag.  As the magnet leaves the stator pole it is attracted.

When iron is magnetized the strength of field in the polarity of the stator is retained for a short time and needs to be actively reversed. 

The speed of the rotor is relatively slow without the reverse current, reverse polarity action and a recovered voltage through a diode is approximately 130 volts.

With the extra inductor to repel the magnets, 400 volts was achieved with less input current.  The speed increase is significant.

The Bedinni device has three windings with one as a feed back to the base of the transistor. Just looking at the drawing shows there would be a very small polarity change induced by the input /output windings and feed back winding.

There is a gain in output when the magnetic effect becomes the link between windings in a transformer type action.