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Lords of the Ring

Started by giantkiller, January 06, 2007, 11:53:14 PM

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innovation_station

here is a real good question for everyone

what might a plasma feild have to do with the tpu

could it be a biproduct of the counter rotating mag feilds or are we going to use the plasma from the center of the big ring to produce the electricty in the collector as it rotates i think the sm17 and the other big ring will be the easyest to understand how the tpu works and functions
in the center of the sm17 it is a transmiter of plasma? and the collector ring on the outside is a reciver?

thoughts anyone?

is
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

gn0stik

IS

Plasma is ionized gas, most of the time, it's superheated ionized gas. And depending on the type of gas, it usually flouresces visibly in the presence of an electric field, it always emits light in an electric field, just not always visible. Although plasma is interesting, I'm not sure that it can be "transmitted" in such a way to be useful in power generation. When magnetic fields collide in a plasma field massive amounts of power can be generated, but there has to be plasma present for that, it's not a by product of magnetic fields. Ambient free floating ions do not constitute a plasma field. Plasma is the fourth state of matter and is what makes up a vast majority of matter in the universe. However I'm not sure how it relates here.

@Grumpy, Turbo is the same Turbo, who was Marco. I can confirm that, and if you have any problems with the proof have have Stefan tell you. No need for this squabbling.

As he said the old device was a Tesla MT. One transmitter, and one receiver. It didn't transmit very far. It didn't fit the SM model as he said, and explained very clearly, so he abandoned it. Are you saying he gave up on it too soon? If so, I sort of agree. SM DID say to Mannix about Tao, that he had the secret (do you think he knows it). Which is what Marco based his build on anyway.

However,  In Turbo's defense, tuning one side of an MT to the other, is not the same as tuning to the earth's magnetic field. Which of course, you are correct, anyone could do with enough wire. However that would be cost and time prohibitive. What is amazing is that the SM device seems to be producing HOT electricity. NOT cold electricity. Either that, or the energy is getting converted to HOT electricity very quickly within the operation of the TPU. The other thing that is amazing is that SM has tapped a nature source with such a SMALL device. One could also tap the Schumann frequencies easily with enough wire. However you'd need thousands of miles of wire for even a half or hundreds for a quarter wavelength. Again, not practical.

So, Marco(turbo), is asking the right questions. If the device's true operation is like the MT, then we need to know how to tune the receiver to the source in an efficient manner. If in fact you are saying he gave up to early.

Rich

innovation_station

i agree on the hot electricty thing the tpu makes hot power but im sure cold power can be made too i think if we look real hard we will find that huge tpu's  have already been built by the goves there is somthing similar to the tpu in ontario there is a huge ring built in texes i think it is 7 miles long it is incased in concreat and also in france they have a 37 km ring built that is cold electricty and i think i herd some where that it was running at around - 250 degress celcious also what happins when you freeze a magnet?

the tpu is for real and i beleave we are all aready being sold electricty generated from a tpu


is
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

giantkiller

The majority of Tesla's patents have included in them a generator. We say that is there to generate electricity. Put your seatbelt on, Now! This part of the device creates a potential for the radiant energy to work with. The generator also creates sparks. Excuse me? This part of the device creates the radiant energy.
Gray's devices had spark gaps. Spark gaps killed men at Niagra and Jersey. I had spark gaps. I saw the radiant energy dartlets. As I ran my finger by the energized GK4 I saw streams of whitish blue bolts jump across the layers. Could be done with a magnet. Now can you guess what I was doing? My finger tip was like a thundercloud rolling across the landscape. Totally Frankenstein here.

Back to the generator.
We have all been looking at this from inside the box. How about we take a new journey? We see every power device as parallel wire / magnetic field connection. When you have that much adjacent matter, the transmittal can be at lower energies. Remember the 90 degree arguments? Well 90 degree coupling works because the intersecting surfaces easly permit only very high transmission. Very invisible in todays current ability. So how do we see that? We bring to conduction 2 points close in space. And Viola! One sees conduction by sparkage. Can you say spark gap? Albeit, big.

Now lets go better. Back to the 90 degress coupling. Lets say you had a number of wires criss crossing another set of wires and you pulse them with a stun gun. You now have a lattice grid of micro connections of radiant energy. You have essentially achieved the sparkage neccessary to permit the next step.

The next step? The Steven Mark devices are all stun gun implementations. The SM15, SM17 have fuse holders in the rear of them. Remember that setup I did? The smaller units are a lattice of micro-connections under wraps.

If you look at the Lindemann and Gray setups you will see.

@IS,
Yes, the power is cold. BUT! the copper gets pissed-off hot!

--giantkiller. Here's your sign...

Grumpy

Quote from: gn0stik on May 10, 2007, 12:40:22 PM
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@Grumpy, Turbo is the same Turbo, who was Marco. I can confirm that, and if you have any problems with the proof have have Stefan tell you. No need for this squabbling.

As he said the old device was a Tesla MT. One transmitter, and one receiver. It didn't transmit very far. It didn't fit the SM model as he said, and explained very clearly, so he abandoned it. Are you saying he gave up on it too soon? If so, I sort of agree. SM DID say to Mannix about Tao, that he had the secret (do you think he knows it). Which is what Marco based his build on anyway.

However,  In Turbo's defense, tuning one side of an MT to the other, is not the same as tuning to the earth's magnetic field. Which of course, you are correct, anyone could do with enough wire. However that would be cost and time prohibitive. What is amazing is that the SM device seems to be producing HOT electricity. NOT cold electricity. Either that, or the energy is getting converted to HOT electricity very quickly within the operation of the TPU. The other thing that is amazing is that SM has tapped a nature source with such a SMALL device. One could also tap the Schumann frequencies easily with enough wire. However you'd need thousands of miles of wire for even a half or hundreds for a quarter wavelength. Again, not practical.

So, Marco(turbo), is asking the right questions. If the device's true operation is like the MT, then we need to know how to tune the receiver to the source in an efficient manner. If in fact you are saying he gave up to early.

Rich

I'll take your word for teh verification that Turbo is Turbo.  Like I mentioned , it doesn't really matter.  Yes, I feel that Turbo gave up too soon with the MT.  If the MT were packaged as a close system, you could take it anywhere.

SM said many things and it is difficult at best to decipher his meaning.  I too cling to the statement that Tao has the secret and this in itself slices through the BS and indicates that the TPU utilizes RE.  SM also stated that he was not positive that the device harnessed the Earth's gravitational field.  SM is definitely familiar with the works of Tesla.  As a side note, I have heard of people tapping the earth torsion grid and the power there is extremely great.  A device that just collects could be based upon this source.

Tesla indicated that impulse duration (pulse width and possibly rate of change) determined the effects that were manifest be the RE produced.  Long pulses produced heat.  Looking at SM's pictures and I see rather large capacitors and possibly modified chokes = slow impulse circuit.  There is also the possibility that SM's device converts the cold E to hot E, but I hold to the long pulse idea for now.

The rate that a signal propagates through a conductor can be greatly slowed.  This is a function of the impedence of the wire.  Raise the impedance and you slow the signal - now you need less wire.  

Guess what?  Tubes have a high impedence - they slow down propagation velocity.  When SM went from tubes to SS he could get the effect to manifest because the propagation was too damn fast. He would have needed a mile of wire.

Spark gap?  High impedance.

SM was an audio guy - I venture a guess that he modified the impedance of the drive circuits to slow the voltage impulse down so he could stop it before the current flowed and then the RE would manifest.

That PDF book - The Free Secrets of Cold Electricity mentions three different accounts of RE manifestation with three different devices: capacitor discharge, Ruhmkorff Coil, and Tesla's - all have a spark gap.

(EDIT - GK posted before I was finished typing)

There are three fields - not two! - three!!! The torsion field (tempic, scalar, etc.), the electric field, and the magnetic field.  RE = torsion field. The three fields are 90 degrees to each other, so in the center of a toroid is a torsion field.  When the electric impulse is stopped, the electrons of the wire have to return to their orientations, but they can't so this energy has to go somewhere and it dumps into the torsion field - comes out perp to the electric field - magnetic field never closed. Torsion field is linked to inertia, mass, time, space, etc.
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