Lords of the Ring

[innovation_station]

@ gn0stik

whats the deal with the probs are they special can you not replace the tubes if they are blowen shipping and the generator would probaly still cost you less than you are going to spend on 3 ss units that i think you will have a verry hard time getting them to work for you. will you not? steven said tubes to start with and what if you only need 1 generator?

i watched a verry good video last night here is the link this was posted by another user if anyone has not seen it then i sudjust you watch it much of the video is about the tpu in my opinion  so at the end of the vidieo do they not have a tesla coil but without all the work? and the high voltage and did there unit not have much more power hooked up the second way than the first with the same input!! also what were they using for a freq generator? tubes? humm...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-721789270445596549

@ grumpy when will you show us your ring im sure you have a working 1 by now am i wrong agin?

is

[Grumpy]

quote from Letter from SM dated FEb 19, 2006 (From Gn0stick's compilation)

I told you that the simplest form of over unity is a piece of wire and a voltage source. Anyone can actually connect it and measure. See for yourself the kick. NO coil no xmrs, just a kick. That should tell you learned gentlemen that there exists a form of energy convertible and useable which is directly related to a simple piece of wire and instantaneous electron flow.. (rapidly repeated instantaneous electron flow)No one appears to be willing to get off their asses and do anything except ask and demand more information before they will start to experiment. (Tell me about it ? Gn0stik)
Yes I am disappointed.

If you call yourself experimenters then start to experiment. I had only this to go on when I started and little by little I figured out how to make many several thousands of kicks per second... AND YOU KNOW WHAT, IT ISN'T DIFICULT AT ALL.
No, I take that statement back. Actually it is difficult if you refuse to start thinking.

Quote TWO:

YES THERE IS A ROTATING FEILD WHICH CAUSES ELECTRONS TO FLOW IN COPPER WIRE AND BE USED TO PROVIDE USEFULL WORK FORCE. THERE ARE MANY WIRES PERPINDICULAR TO THE MAIN COLLECTOR.(Control coils) THIS IS A NECESSARY PART OF THE DEVICE.

Is this rotating field the "oscillation" (or caused by the oscillation) mentioned in the "Tao has the Secret" comments?

[gn0stik]

@ gn0stik

whats the deal with the probs are they special can you not replace the tubes if they are blowen shipping and the generator would probaly still cost you less than you are going to spend on 3 ss units that i think you will have a verry hard time getting them to work for you. will you not? steven said tubes to start with and what if you only need 1 generator?

i watched a verry good video last night here is the link this was posted by another user if anyone has not seen it then i sudjust you watch it much of the video is about the tpu in my opinion  so at the end of the vidieo do they not have a tesla coil but without all the work? and the high voltage and did there unit not have much more power hooked up the second way than the first with the same input!! also what were they using for a freq generator? tubes? humm...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-721789270445596549

@ grumpy when will you show us your ring im sure you have a working 1 by now am i wrong agin?

is

IS, I also want them for other experiments, not just the TPU. Marco has done some experiments I would like to replicate, and build upon with them. I do agree that SM has suggested tubes and it is a necessary step in the process. I have no problem with experimenting with tube setups. The probe thing that I was talking about is simple. Most electronics testing equipment today use BNC test probes. The older stuff uses a different connector and they are hard to find these days, unless the unit you buy comes with the old probes. Also, I have, as I said seen older units in local second hand shops. The one Sauron posted was a nice one however and did mention specific tubes that are specifically mentioned so there's an added bonus there. I probably would have bought that instead of one of the other ones I bought had I seen it before I bought them.

I would prefer however to build one out of tubes as Vortex, and Mannix did a while back if I could find a good ol tube circuit.

However, I do think the effect can be discovered with units like I have if properly shielded.

In the UEC demo video that shows the SM17 where he Arcs the two leads together and gets a flame discharge he mentions high frequency and shows the TV screen that is running from it as he does this, and shows the interference. It should be possible to cage the frequency gens to shield against this interference if necessary.

Also, back in the day, Mannix suggested we all build max038 gennies which are of course, solid state.

The effect can be found using solid state, but may not be able to be sustained without proper protection, He says in one of the videos "sometimes they wouldn't even start." Or was that a quote from a post. Which tells me that a lot of the time they DID start. So, as I said, keeping an eye out for the effect is the key. Also, my gennies utilize FETS, which are not as slow or suceptible as transistors.

Of course I could be wrong on this, but if I am, I'm no more wrong than everyone else who uses SS function gennies around here. And, they will always resell on ebay for what I got them for, easily.

No big loss.

So I appreciate your concern, but I'm OK with my purchase. It puts me in the game at any rate.

@Grumpy, Hey man, if you could go through my archive there, and post any of the new ones that are missing, I'd appreciate it.

@Mannix, what were the results of your tests with the Tube amp that you built?

Regards,
Rich

[innovation_station]

i almost find this hard to chew!!!!

how about this

all coils are first built with tubes in a test lab on a bench then once you find the freqs and make the coil work USING TUBES you then go and make the same in solid state for that ring each ring is its own!! does that make sence???

if we remember steven said tubes because they are verry stable easy to work with and donot need to be in the ring like solid state does to function

why do we not see any tubes in the sm units?   because he already tested the coil and made it work with tubes now he knows what that coil takes to operate safly and properly and he can now make it work on solid state does that make sence ??

now ask yourself do we use tubes? the answer is yes to test and build the coil. are they in the finished product? no they are not  why?  because of the high voltage required to operate properly he wanted it to start from a magnet not a big battery so i think the ramp up time is when the squeeze effect  or the otto test or the hall effect or what ever you want to call it takes place and builds up the power in the coil to the voltage required by the solid state to make it work!!

but hey im just guessing

is

[gn0stik]

OK, For crap sakes, I'll buy tooooooooob gennies, when I get more money. LOL. I give!
Uncle! Mercy! you win!