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Lords of the Ring

Started by giantkiller, January 06, 2007, 11:53:14 PM

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Dansway

#1550
May 16, 2007, 09:54:38 PM
A ring modulator accepts two inputs and produces the sum and difference frequencies of them.

For example, if two sine waves of 100 and 150 cycles are present at the inputs,
the output will consist of two frequencies 50 cycles (150 minus 100) and 250 cycles (150 plus 100).

Waves with many partials, such as rectangular or sawtooth waves, create very complex output signals.
Ring modulators offer a convenient way to create metallic sounds, bells and klangs.
They have been widely used in the creation of electronic music.


This Ring Modulator design is very old and unique.

It requires no external power.

http://www.synthfool.com/ringmod.html

Bruce_TPU

#1551
May 16, 2007, 10:06:01 PM
Quote Of UncleFester:
"But we aren't crushing cans or shrinking quarters here, nor are we trying to amplify music. We are simply pumping coils with a square waves and need VERY precisely controlled timing."


"nor are we trying to amplify music."  hmmm... I wonder..

SM's Words:
"Gee, why not just build a tube amp to begin with.  Less distortion and little need for feedback overdose.  Much faster all around."
And:
"I have designed some Amps using MOSFET, etc. Which sound very much like tube amps.  However when I want to design a new AMP, I always start with tube and then move on the MOSFETS..."
And:
"lamp cord is what I use to connect my speakers (collectors) to my AMPLIFIER.  You should hear my new amplifier I have made."
AND:
"MOSFETS are better you if you wanted to make an amplifier that BEHAVED like a tube  Amp but in a smaller size.

I know every one here knows all of this, but just thought I would throw a friendly reminder to those who may not.  ;)

To SM, modern King of electrons,
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

UncleFester

#1552
May 16, 2007, 10:59:26 PM
Quote from: btentzer on May 16, 2007, 10:06:01 PM
Quote Of UncleFester:
"But we aren't crushing cans or shrinking quarters here, nor are we trying to amplify music. We are simply pumping coils with a square waves and need VERY precisely controlled timing."


"nor are we trying to amplify music."  hmmm... I wonder..

SM's Words:
"Gee, why not just build a tube amp to begin with.  Less distortion and little need for feedback overdose.  Much faster all around."
And:
"I have designed some Amps using MOSFET, etc. Which sound very much like tube amps.  However when I want to design a new AMP, I always start with tube and then move on the MOSFETS..."


Woohoo! Musical TPU's! LOL! If only it were as easy as playing a little mozart through a tube amp into a control coil and getting massive power out the other side. Man, that would be sweet!

P.S. I'm starting to believe that SM had little to do with inventing this device and rather some heavy hitter engineers were probably involved. Maybe he was more part of the marketing of the device and knew enough to show it and explain parts of it? Who knows, whatever the case, we are still missing a major amount of details......

nong

#1553
May 16, 2007, 11:00:00 PM
Thank you all.
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