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Lords of the Ring

Started by giantkiller, January 06, 2007, 11:53:14 PM

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dutchy1966

Quote from: starcruiser on May 29, 2007, 04:57:32 PM
Now what if the core is just a bundle of copper wire and the neo magnet supplies the magnetic field? This allows us to start and stop it, no?


Thoughts?


What will happen is that the protons in the nucleus of the copper atoms (they are magnetic!) will turn inline with the magnetic field that flow through the bundle of wires. The nucleus is normally pointing random or maybe even to the earths magnetic field.
Now, as this is happening...... the nucleus drags the electron shell with it (there is a one to one bond between  protons and  and non free electrons). This dragging of the electron shell is what is causing extra electron flow and causes the spike on the leading edge of a square wave.

In my opinion this is the kick SM is talking about.
See here.... http://magnetism.fateback.com/Overunity.htm

Robert

starcruiser

could be, maybe a PIC controller could be used or a PC with software. But keeping it simple, the patent mentioned using non fixed periods thus using 3 or more coils we could stay away from the terahertz freq and use something more easily doable.

I do not think we need to worry about the timing of the oscillators, whether they are sync'd or not but that the pulse width is where it should be and the voltage level of the output.

Regards,

Carl

starcruiser

I think we are trying to "inflate" the magnetic bubble and flucuate it after it is inflated to create the induced voltage oputput in the output coil.

This, in my opinion, points to the control coils mass and its ability to create a field which interacts with the neo magnets field and pump it up.

It might be possible to induce a DC component in the collector while doing this and use the feedback coils power to drive the unit. Just a thought.
Regards,

Carl

dutchy1966

Quote from: starcruiser on May 29, 2007, 05:34:08 PM
could be, maybe a PIC controller could be used or a PC with software. But keeping it simple, the patent mentioned using non fixed periods thus using 3 or more coils we could stay away from the terahertz freq and use something more easily doable.

I do not think we need to worry about the timing of the oscillators, whether they are sync'd or not but that the pulse width is where it should be and the voltage level of the output.



As i said in an earlier message, I think I misunderstood the patent the first time. There is only this very short period between the two pulses A and B. This can be solved with a delay line. The actual frequency of one pulse train ( A or B) is gonna be much lower.

Robert

turbo

Quote from: dutchy1966 on May 29, 2007, 05:23:47 PM
Quote from: starcruiser on May 29, 2007, 04:57:32 PM
Now what if the core is just a bundle of copper wire and the neo magnet supplies the magnetic field? This allows us to start and stop it, no?


Thoughts?


What will happen is that the protons in the nucleus of the copper atoms (they are magnetic!) will turn inline with the magnetic field that flow through the bundle of wires. The nucleus is normally pointing random or maybe even to the earths magnetic field.
Now, as this is happening...... the nucleus drags the electron shell with it (there is a one to one bond between  protons and  and non free electrons). This dragging of the electron shell is what is causing extra electron flow and causes the spike on the leading edge of a square wave.

In my opinion this is the kick SM is talking about.
See here.... http://magnetism.fateback.com/Overunity.htm

Robert

The kick is attributed to the (electro) magnetic field of the earth because it has an influence on the wire.

when we first apply a current the high voltage races into the wire and will collide with the standing still (free) electrons in the wire which are "held" back by the flux as the man explains.

this "bump" is the kick and its also the inertia effect of the electrons they cannot speed up at once to reach the same speed as the inrush.

even if the electrons are already moving they still posess this inertial momentum we can still send in a currant which is verry much faster then they are moving and the kick will be there again and speed them up some more.

if we disable the flux they are free to move and every little kick will add to the accelleration , however , since the flux is gone, we can no longer say it is the influence of the magnetic field of the earth which has a influence on the wire ,so therefore this would mean it's only there inertial momentum we are dealing with at this moment.

basicly that is what i call "the winding up part".
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the we go to what i call "combining the kicks",

what is described above also works in reverse, if we chase them up to near lightspeed, and we would switch back on the effects of the fluxat once, all those little kick's we send in to accellerate would combine into one big current kick ,we would get back one hell of a lot of power from those super fast moving electrons, inclucding ,the energy out of the (electro) magnetic field of the earth....
it's in the taking back action.

it's like you drive up a generator without any kind of friction or load , up to lightspeed and then you put a load on it, and or tap the energy to drive it up again since this takes verry less power and all we get back is for free, it only needs start up power to get there.

so the control constantly monitors the speed 5000 times a sec or so and makes the needed changes ,drives it up or down depending on how fast it is going making sure it does not get into overdrive.

Turbo.