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Lords of the Ring

Started by giantkiller, January 06, 2007, 11:53:14 PM

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giantkiller

You have to be well read on the devices that have produced High frequency energy. I have produced RE with 2 coils. I am the only one to introduce the use of stunguns as lightning generators into the coils. I have produced damaging effects with 2 coils. I have seen Tesla's dartlets. I have seen the seed on the GK4 and have moved it to and fro in the signal on another coil. I have seen VHF signals through the use of phase cancellation.

The individuals who have experienced RE in their own tests do not interogate with questions dealing with detailed results. It just too enjoyable to see. I have posted specs for powering and freq combos. Others have too but questions still abound. I have also posted videos of waves and wave explainations. I realize these Blog sites are not repositories but are timelines so it makes it tough to research and investigate if a reader has not started from the beginning or kept up. This is a major problem especially when there are many threads.

If it sounds like I have been their for a long time then I am sorry. After my results I have moved on into bigger TPU territory. We don't have the tools to measure RE but can use our classic physics and electronics knowledge to surmise what is going on. If the group as a whole hasn't experience the outcome of a theory is it still theory? For those of us that have seen the RE and high RF effects, we know. For those that haven't then I can only say build and test something. This is the kindest I know how to be. But there definately is a difference in the type of questions by the those who haven't seen this phenominum compared to those who have. The answers don't lie in conventional electronics and for that matter standard physics. A number of us have taken this to the books and professors for the 'Dumb look'.

There are a number of us waiting on parts, building mosfet boards, winding coils, and testing. I am in the middle of all these options for this next step. I, like others, have piles of coils in the TPU graveyard that I am proud of because I built and tested. Others are too.

I guess my next coil result post has been too long in coming. I assure you I am chomping at the bit to get the next test up and running. I have a history of doing dangerous things here too. So be patient with us who are well past the starting gate. I, for one, only work for myself. I post to entice others to learn and build and not spoon feed anybody.

--giantkiller. The proud, the few, the aware, and it hurts!

chrisC

GK:
Thanks for the detailed reply. I had hoped we will have a thread just for specific results with circuits and measurements plus a little explanation but not wild theory. Just consistent reproducible test results and nothing else. This way, it will be easier for those of us like myself who have yet to wind a coil to follow and perhaps understand and confirm when it's time to duplicate.

On another note, SM touched his (albeit taped up) coils in the demos and there was no burnt flesh or Electro-Magnetic discharge and other wierdo effects. Maybe his stuff operates without all these 'dangerous' waves? Are we on the right track or perhaps we're over cooking the TPU recipe?

Regards
chrisC

Bruce_TPU

Quote from: chrisC on June 28, 2007, 07:43:35 PM
On another note, SM touched his (albeit taped up) coils in the demos and there was no burnt flesh or Electro-Magnetic discharge and other wierdo effects. Maybe his stuff operates without all these 'dangerous' waves? Are we on the right track or perhaps we're over cooking the TPU recipe?

Regards
chrisC

@ Chris

Actually, that is not altogether accurate.  SM's TPU put out a great deal of:
1.  Radio Frequency interference - Take a look at the TV near the unit
2.  Electro Magnetic Pulse - So much so that Solid State circuitry was affected, unless in the center of the Toroid.  Also, so much that the DC to AC inverter had to be put far from the unit to function properly.
3.  And as far as Radiant Energy, remember the 15" TPU cut?  Look where the wires are.  In the 6", my guess is they are in the same place.  The wires under the tape on the 6" I believe were AC electromagnets and not harmful to touch.
4.  If you read the engineering reports, in the original .pdf compiled by Lindsay, you see the problem of overheating.  EVERY unit after 2-2.5 hours needed to be shut down before it overheated.  SM and engineers attributed the problem to eddy currents.

We are all on the right path, we just need more experimenters!

Thank you for your time,  (Happy Days!)
Bruce 
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

giantkiller

Great post guys!

There is alot to be learned here. After I microwaved my hand and elbow I became instantly humbled and had the big 'Oh wow!' Tesla moment. So have others. What is it? You just walk around for days astonished at what you yourself have in your possession and have done. And you mind goes wild with enthusiasm.

Please, please be safe. I know this alot to ask but if you haven't read all the posts and you ask yourself 'What are they babbling about?' then there is another level of energy we are talking that isn't so clear to the neophyte. No disrespect intended. You need to read it all. There is a large amount of Tesla / nonstandard knowledge and information here. It might seem a bit radical but it is real.
SM has pain in his hands to this day and Otto reported a numb thumb. I've been lucky so far. Close calls though.

UHF magnetic fields are nothing to clown around with. I have been consulting with 2 antenna engineers and 1 high power engineer. They let me know always when it is dangerous. When it comes to safety posts I have the most from around the world and all levels. That tells me I am on track with results. I heed the warnings. You can cook a limb off before you feel at the next higher joint.

I am not so concerned at this point with measurements but more with action level results. Others work at measurement levels. So you might not get the level of detail pertaining to true engineering mindset. But I do post results for others to try or to say the least 'very strange things'.

I copy coils, make valid variations, make my own and fire them up. And sometimes just to get one little result set. It is all we can do at this juncture. It is like a blank canvas. Paint yourself a picture.

I can state this with great pride. All the builders have the coolest desktop ornaments in the world. They don't have to work. Just show someone who is interested and watch the glee and curiosity in their eyes as you tell them about the tests.

--giantkiller. All comments are welcome. I got to get back to building, now. Coils, controllers, boxes.

bob.rennips

Quote from: btentzer on June 28, 2007, 08:15:30 PM
Quote from: chrisC on June 28, 2007, 07:43:35 PM
On another note, SM touched his (albeit taped up) coils in the demos and there was no burnt flesh or Electro-Magnetic discharge and other wierdo effects. Maybe his stuff operates without all these 'dangerous' waves? Are we on the right track or perhaps we're over cooking the TPU recipe?

Regards
chrisC

@ Chris

Actually, that is not altogether accurate.  SM's TPU put out a great deal of:
1.  Radio Frequency interference - Take a look at the TV near the unit
2.  Electro Magnetic Pulse - So much so that Solid State circuitry was affected, unless in the center of the Toroid.  Also, so much that the DC to AC inverter had to be put far from the unit to function properly.
3.  And as far as Radiant Energy, remember the 15" TPU cut?  Look where the wires are.  In the 6", my guess is they are in the same place.  The wires under the tape on the 6" I believe were AC electromagnets and not harmful to touch.
4.  If you read the engineering reports, in the original .pdf compiled by Lindsay, you see the problem of overheating.  EVERY unit after 2-2.5 hours needed to be shut down before it overheated.  SM and engineers attributed the problem to eddy currents.

We are all on the right path, we just need more experimenters!

Thank you for your time,  (Happy Days!)
Bruce 


1.  Radio Frequency interference - Take a look at the TV near the unit

I'd have to disagree with the radio interference based on the TV unit.

The videos of the working TV I've seen have not exhibited radio interference IMO. To me it looks like general poor signal quality, which causes the loss of vertical sync and the rollover of the picture. Radio interference is likely to show up as long horizontal white/black noise lines, audio glitches or short, white lines speckled across the TV picture. I don't remember seeing these on the TV.

2.  Electro Magnetic Pulse - So much so that Solid State circuitry was affected, unless in the center of the Toroid. 

This is actually a major clue to what is happening if we could figure this out. Normally magnetic effects are concentrated in the center of coils - it is very strange that the center is the place for the electronics.

What is that SM is doing that allows the center to be free of these effects ?