Lords of the Ring

[innovation_station]

ah but gk if u amp that signal 3 times and each time sent it back through its self how big might it be?

its self being the tpu config or the mag amp config

i read some where that 3 times is about the limit you can amp an amped signal  b4 it will get too dirty but i think that is where the speed will play a roll speed in my mind = freqs  so take the tiny kicks and amp them is this right?

btw i seam to get big kicks or spikes at higher freqs with just 1 freq and no control wires perpendicular just a coil

am i donig somthing wrong?

lol

is

1 more question can the tpu operate like this?

ok bottom coil is tuned to say 3 hz and top is tuned to 6 hz and center tuned to 9hz will that work then you would pluse a harmonic of and a beat of 3 and 6 to the top coil and the oppsit polarty to the bottom? will that transmit through resonance?

it would be like a sandwich tansmitter trans mitting from top and from bottom to center

i only used 36 9 as an example it should be close to 7.8 the earth right!! but maybe the harmonics used should be 3 6 and 9

here i go im getting back into the tpu agin bigtime like i said i would not that i dont think that the stun gun is the way but it can be done so many ways so lets do it  have you tried a fet as an amp to amp the kicks what might happin ?

[ronotte]

Hi GK,

you are starting to see something...but still not on target:

1 - It's not clear the scope time base setting: if it's 10 microsec/div than the freq you observe is correct as in all my tests the freq is always about 50 KHz..please check/confirm. In fig 1 you can see the signal on Zero (upper) and on Phase (lower)  (zero level is on screen center). The freq is about 50 KHz and the sine is poorly formed as this refer using only 1 coil 1 freq. The references that you can see on screen are correct!  (I used +12V for Control Coil).

2 - The same for amplitude: the sine amplitude on Phase is generally about 15 - 60 V peak-to peak depending on your PS setting and sweet point reached. So it seems that your amplitude (mV ?) is not correct. Please check it. On fig 2 you cas see a 75% completed sine of more than 50V.

3 - The waveform must be all of the same amplitude not dumping as I see in your pic. In fig 2  you can see the amplitude is absolutely fixed (no decay).

Please tell me the test conditions you are referring: freqs, number of CCs, PS voltage/current, etc.

In order to see the sine you MUST use 50% duty-cycle for input freqs.

Ciao

Roberto

[innovation_station]

hello ronette and  gk and all i have a verry nice picture iwill take when  i get home tonight it is my square wave plused at a freq of 101.4khz it is sent into a tuned primary and secondary well what happins this is only 1 freq i get rinning on the top and bottop of my square pluses with a nice spike at the verry front edge of my ringgg now when i try to set it to your settings it is way too big to even see half of it on my scope  now the really neat think is this when i run this on my scop fast and watch the wave i get irattic and irrugular spikes but the top peak and bottom peak of the rinning square wave sets up a petfect sine wave and huge plus the pluses seperate pasitives and negitives i will take a picture of the entire setup tonight there is no wires connecting the primary to the secondary all done through resonace they are 2 seprat coils of the same mass 2 wind primary of 11ga flat speeker wire and 12 winds lamp wire secondary 18 ga i will add to this when i get back

is

ok with this wave when we combine 3 of thease to gather slightly out of phase of each other that will make the sine wave at a higher freq and if the other waves that combine togather to form the nice sine wave if the other 1 or 2 freqs were harmonics of the first freq then it would act as almost an inifnitive ringg if the harmonics were 6 and the 9th we would be in the vhf range is that correct?

ok here is a vid of my tuned 2 coils transmitting through resonance a freq at 100khz and this is the wave look in the center it is a sine wave with resonance  im plusing a square wave now this is diffrent from what i spoke of earlyer

here is a pic of my setup and this is the start of my new tpu coil

to get the wave i spoke of earlyer i must not run it all through resonance meaning i must hook up pos or neg to primary then pluse from inside and outside i will try this right now


sop i did just what i said and yes i am right in what i say with it hooked up this new way i have exacaly what i said as above at the top of this post plus i had to adjust my input range because it was just way off the scope im in the .1v range for my pluses  wheras the last vid i posted was in the 10v range  so it seams this way is much better

also in this vid you will see that there no kicks or spikes why ? well because above i was running the freq gen above 100khz sooo think about that remember the diffrence in the gap between the freqs so maybe we have to be just past our desired freqs by 7.3 or some off the wall diffrence  that is where i had a big spike on front of rinning wave this agis same freq as last vid but hooked up a diffrent way
is

[giantkiller]

@IS,
Well the 2nd vid is impressive. Do that same experiment with one ring in the center or on top.

Isn't a plastic work bench a little dangerous? Or you trying to get more dangerous than me?

--giantkiller.

[innovation_station]

gk my friend im working with verry low voltage pluses that is all  plastic is temp till i set up the table


will play agin tommorow

is